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Portrayal of cohabitation in sitcoms

Okay, not a sexy thread topic, but I'll explain... I'm starting some initial work as a research assistant on a history of non-marital cohabitation in England and Wales. One aspect of that massive subject is how non-marital cohabitation has been portrayed in books, theatre, TV etc. Since you start to see comedy appearing based around things/changes/new ideas that society perhaps feels uncomfortable with but is trying to understand or come to terms with, we'd expect the increase in cohabitation in the 60s and its explosion in the 70s to be reflected in the subject matter of TV sitcoms. As an example, there's the engaged couple in Abigail & Roger in 1956 who live in separate flats but meet up to go out, then the couple in Rings On Their Fingers, where the crux of the comedy is the fact that they're cohabiting before marriage (the very idea!), through to say Men Behaving Badly, where a cohabiting set-up before marriage is taken as read.
Now, the reason for this post is to ask the aficionados in British Comedy Guide Land if they can pass on any leads on sitcoms that involve a portrayal of non-marital heterosexual cohabitation (the whole gay aspect is outside the scope of the research for the moment, as it wasn't an alternative to marriage for most of the period we're interested in). We're especially interested in the 1970s right now, but any references from the 50s to the present day would be very gratefully received at my personal email liamdarcybrown@hotmail.com (erm Mr Moderator - is posting an email address ok?). Thanks in anticipation. Phew, what a long, dull post!!!

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Ah! Of course! I was only a kiddie when that aired, so it hadn't struck me that it might be relevant. Ta

What about Man About The House? Robin never dated Chrissy or Jo AFAIK, but it wasn't for want of trying - it was certainly mixed-gender cohabitation.

Man About The House's sole premise was the very 'modern' idea of single men and women flatsharing.

The Liver Birds was the single girls sharing in the 70s too. Rising Damp was about students and a single woman sharing grotty digs with their landlord.

The Young Ones was again diverse students cohabiting in a houseshare. Girls On Top was a sort of female (wannabe) version of TYO.

The most modern version is Peep Show (two ex uni friends sharing in their 30s).

I'd say that the most modern version is Not Going Out, actually.

(I actually thought about all of the above except Peep Show!)

Ta for above recommendations - Man About The House fits well with the fact that, before that time, single men and women didn't flatshare in rented properties - that Robin failed to get off with anyone was a nice bit of added tension. Liver Birds interesting in that the girls are sharing together and being sexually adventurous with boys they don't actually live with. TYO/PS less directly relevant, as the vehicle for the comedy is the (kind-of) student digs set-up, which was already well-established as a way for men and women to live together platonically, though I will go back and take another look at the portrayal of female students (I think I remember one where Jennifer Saunders (?) and pals end up sitting on a giant tampon...). What we're more interested in is the explicitly sexual non-marital cohabitation situations.

Quote: Aaron @ June 7 2010, 2:24 PM BST

I'd say that the most modern version is Not Going Out, actually.

(I actually thought about all of the above except Peep Show!)

Interesting. I would say the format (non-studio, using the internal voice, etc) let alone the type of humour, makes Peep Show more modern than Not Going Out, without even mentioning that the Mark and Jeremy relationship being more of a reflection of real life today than Not Going Out.

Solo starts off with Felicity Kendal throwing out her boyfriend after he cheats on her. I'm only a few episodes in so I'm not sure if they ever do get back together or if she does live with someone else at some point, but you may be able to pick up something from it anyway.

Struggling to think of any others at present.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ June 7 2010, 2:31 PM BST

Interesting. I would say the format (non-studio, using the internal voice, etc) let alone the type of humour, makes Peep Show more modern than Not Going Out, without even mentioning that the Mark and Jeremy relationship being more of a reflection of real life today than Not Going Out.

I was taking 'modern' to refer to time. I.e. Not Going Out is a more recent programme to start than Peep Show. To start talking about the style of the comedy is going away from Tomtom's area of analysis somewhat, I think.

Quote: Tomtom08 @ June 7 2010, 12:56 PM BST

Now, the reason for this post is to ask the aficionados in British Comedy Guide Land if they can pass on any leads on sitcoms that involve a portrayal of non-marital heterosexual cohabitation

Sorry, are you only looking for examples of romantic couples co-habiting in sitcoms, or men and women, or just any straight people sharing?

Quote: Aaron @ June 7 2010, 2:38 PM BST

I was taking 'modern' to refer to time. I.e. Not Going Out is a more recent programme to start than Peep Show. To start talking about the style of the comedy is going away from Tomtom's area of analysis somewhat, I think.

Ah I see. Although Peep Show almost outlived NGO. :) It's chronologically later, but I still think Peep Show is more modern.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ June 7 2010, 2:41 PM BST

Although Peep Show almost outlived NGO. :)

If we're going down that route, Peep Show has never enjoyed particularly good ratings and indeed nearly ended around the time Not Going Out started. NGO's "cancellation" was more of an internal-politics PR bluff that paid off for the Beeb. I don't think anyone will argue that stylistically, Peep Show is newer than Not Going Out.

A Fine Romance may also be of interest, although the couple don't begin living together until Series 2 (1982) IIRC. Sounds like that may be a little later than you're looking at analysing right now?

There's also The Lovers - very much what you're talking about relationship-wise, Tomtom, but I'm afraid I'm not sure if they ever lived together. Haven't got around to watching it yet!

Tom, it might be worthwhile listing the sitcoms you have so far.

We can then add to the list, without fear of duplication.

He asked us to email him, so I hope he comes back!

Oh, he's already posted three times. *shuts up*

Solo and A Fine Romance duly noted - ta.

Quite right to pick me up on the details of what I'm looking for, as that sentence you quoted is a bit ambiguous: what we're looking for are portrayals of a man and a woman cohabiting in a sexual relationship outside a legally recognised marriage, especially if the existence of that relationship is the basis of the comedy. Just found Clarence as an example (even if it's not much use as it's an anachronistic portrayal of a 1930s couple filmed in the 80s), and also the portrayal of Lionel and Jean in As Time Goes By when they decide to move in together before marrying.

I'd actually completely forgotten about the relationship aspect of Clarence. I'll have to watch that again soon!

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