Anybody care to explain the whole 9.06 thing to me? That was the only bit that really didn't make any sense to me.
I didn't come away from the episode feeling that Hawes was dead, either.
Maybe these two things are connected.
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Quote: Kevin Murphy @ May 22 2010, 12:16 AM BSTAnybody care to explain the whole 9.06 thing to me? That was the only bit that really didn't make any sense to me.
I didn't come away from the episode feeling that Hawes was dead, either.
Maybe these two things are connected.
It was her time of death... so they are connected in a way.
I missed the second series, so I'm assuming that was when she was in hospital. Right?
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ May 22 2010, 12:19 AM BSTI missed the second series, so I'm assuming that was when she was in hospital. Right?
Yes, Keats was pretending she was in a coma, she could get back to her daughter, but she can't; she's dead.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 22 2010, 12:20 AM BSTYes, Keats was pretending she was in a coma, she could get back to her daughter, but she can't; she's dead.
F**k. How annoying. I thought it was a happy ending.
It is, they didn't go to Hell with Keats. Gene saved them.
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ May 22 2010, 12:22 AM BSTF**k. How annoying. I thought it was a happy ending.
Well, I suppose we're supposed to think they're accepting their pasts and their current situation and going on to some sort of 'heaven'; so you could say that's a happy ending.
Wait on... if all the cops were dead, how do you explain Life On Mars? Sam wasn't dead (until he was) he was in a coma.
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ May 22 2010, 12:24 AM BSTWait on... if all the cops were dead, how do you explain Life On Mars? Sam wasn't dead (until he was) he was in a coma.
He was halfway between life and death though. Just clinging on, until he finally properlly killed himself. Maybe if you're properly dead, you forget your old life quicker, if you're just about clinging on, then you remember who you are more clearly. Or something.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 22 2010, 12:28 AM BSTHe was halfway between life and death though. Just clinging on, until he finally properlly killed himself. Maybe if you're properly dead, you forget your old life quicker, if you're just about clinging on, then you remember who you are more clearly. Or something.
Fair enough.
Watching the last five minutes again, I'm struck by how the writing and Hawes' performance doesn't really suggest "Oh my god, I've just found out I'm dead and I'm never going to see my daughter again."
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ May 22 2010, 12:30 AM BSTI'm never going to see my daughter again."
Though she will if she's a good girl and goes to Heaven! 
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 22 2010, 12:31 AM BSTThough she will if she's a good girl and goes to Heaven!
Nah.
As an orphan, she'll likely be sent to a series of welfare-sponging foster homes and soulless government facilities where she will be emotionally deprived and repeatedly sexually abused, only to run away for life on the streets of London at the age of 14, inevitably turning to prostitution to make ends meet and attempt to repair her sense of self-worth, before dying of a heroin overdose in her early twenties and promptly going to hell.
And why? Because God hates fornicators.
I only saw the first half of the last series, so can someone tell me how she got into hospital in order to be in the coma/die? It seemed implied that unlike Sam, who IIRC didn't ever 'wake up' between the LoM series, that she had escaped from ... being held hostage on a boat or something? Wasn't that it? *scratches head*
She got shot in the head in series one episode one, didn't she?