Quote: Aaron @ May 12 2010, 10:52 PM BSTMarc's gone all angry. Quite amusing.
Marc's doing well at the moment. he gets my vote.
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Quote: Godot Taxis @ May 13 2010, 12:07 AM BSTYour frequent use of the word 'tribal' to reduce other people's heartfelt choices to the level of ignorant reflexes shows you up as a floating voter, Timbo, albeit a well informed one.
A choice can be heartfelt without being permanent, as the divorce rate shows. Surely the purpose of an election is to give us the chance to reconsider our political affiliation? So yes, I suppose I am a floating voter. I do not want anyone taking decisions thinking that they can take my assent for granted.
Quote: Timbo @ May 12 2010, 11:40 PM BSTIt is not so much that she might choose to dissolve Parliament as that she might choose not to. it is the confusion between the lifespan of the Government and the lifespan of the Parliament that I find puzzling. Are the two synonymous? I did not think that a vote of no confidence in the Government necessarily resulted in the dissolution of Parliament. I thought the Queen could ask the Opposition to try and form a Government.
As I understand it, she can. If there's some confusion, perhaps they're trying to create it; or sideline 'er Maj'? 
I call for absolute Monarchial rule!
Seriously, this 55% idea is a load of bollocks. They talk about making MPs more accountable when this makes them less so.
It just seems nonsensical to me - how is a Government that can only command 45% of the House going to function?
Quote: Timbo @ May 13 2010, 12:14 AM BSTA choice can be heartfelt without being permanent, as the divorce rate shows. Surely the purpose of an election is to give us the chance to reconsider our political affiliation? So yes, I suppose I am a floating voter. I do not want anyone taking decisions thinking that they can take my assent for granted.
Don't want to get too deep into this at this time of morning but . there have to be certain core values that don't change whatever the details.
For me that is society looking after those who can't look after themselves (but not catching all the ne'er do wells in the same net).
Ensuring that no-one takes the piss out of those less fortunate especially if it increases their well being in the process.
Trying to give everyone the same chance in life not influenced by rank or title or wealth.
And so on . . and if, during a term in office there is a mistake, misjudgment, whatever, not to abandon those people to their fate under another regime that gives not a whit.
The core principles have to prevail.
Which is why I have always and will always, unless they change their core values, voted Labour.
Quote: Timbo @ May 13 2010, 12:28 AM BSTIt just seems nonsensical to me - how is a Government that can only command 45% of the House going to function?
Because under this rule, apparently they can! Bonkers.
Quote: Oldrocker @ May 13 2010, 12:28 AM BSTWhich is why I have always and will always, unless they change their core values, voted Labour.
But do you not think that they have? There is still a lot of decency in the Labour party, but I just feel that they have compromised too much and lost their moral compass. They actually need to be in opposition to redefine themselves, and distance themselves from idiocies such as Iraq and ID cards. Five years of a Tory lite Government modified by LibDem coalition I do not see as posing anymore threat to the fabric society than the continuation of an exhausted Labour government.
The challenge is going to be staying one step ahead of the IMF, and whoever is in power is going to make hard choices that are going to affect ordinary people, because let's face it, New Labour were no more likely to shift the tax burden onto the rich than are the coalition.
Quote: Timbo @ May 13 2010, 12:46 AM BSTIraq
See? That word again.
Votes for the Tories, Lib Dems, whoever because of it and damn the hindmost in this country so long as I've salved my conscience.
I agree with Timbo.
So that c**t Milliband is standing for leadership of the Labour party.
They should have no chance with that f**king hypocrite in charge.
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ May 13 2010, 12:54 AM BSTI agree with Timbo.
Well, that's edifying.
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ May 13 2010, 12:54 AM BSTI agree with Timbo.
But you may not tomorrow. He's a self-confessed floating voter.
Quote: Godot Taxis @ May 13 2010, 1:06 AM BSTBut you may not tomorrow. He's a self-confessed floating voter.
I don't think I'd trust anybody who wasn't.
Quote: Godot Taxis @ May 13 2010, 12:07 AM BSTAnd this time round you voted Tory. Thanks for doing that.
Labourites can't wait to lay the blame at any door but their own.
Quote: Timbo @ May 13 2010, 12:28 AM BSTIt just seems nonsensical to me - how is a Government that can only command 45% of the House going to function?
Isn't that the point; once it has only 45% of the House it ceases to function?
Quote: Chappers @ May 13 2010, 1:02 AM BSTSo that c**t Milliband is standing for leadership of the Labour party.
They should have no chance with that f**king hypocrite in charge.
*crosses fingers*