Gordon's on the way then !
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Yes. It looks like he's outmanoeuvred Lord Snooty and his Pals.
He's just announced he'll stand down as Lleader as soon as his party can choose another.
Knives will be out for Cameron if Tories start thinking it's likely they won't form Government now.
The markets' reaction to the prospect of a Lib-Lab coalition.
Quote: Badge @ May 10 2010, 5:38 PM BSTKnives will be out for Cameron if Tories start thinking it's likely they won't form Government now.
He's achieved his promise to change the face of the Conservative Party.
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Cameron won the most seats he should head up a coalition government with the Libs.
I hate him but if he doesn't form a government then our democracy counts for very little.
Dick Dastardly caught the pigeon. the Hooded Claw has done Penelope Pittstop in.
Labor have failed to sell themselves to the country or answer their failing. Can we just get this filthy, shameful business over with.
Quote: sootyj @ May 10 2010, 5:51 PM BSTCameron won the most seats he should head up a coalition government with the Libs.
Or you could argue that more people voted against the Tories, so the not-Tories should govern.
This is worth reading:
That's not how the system works. It's first past the post.
Maybe the next election but for now he won.
The Tory press are gonna go ballistic. They've got to accept that they really don't have the power they think they have.
Quote: Aaron @ May 10 2010, 5:47 PM BSTThe markets' reaction to the prospect of a Lib-Lab coalition.
Or the markets' reaction to uncertainty in general?
Quote: sootyj @ May 10 2010, 5:58 PM BSTThat's not how the system works. It's first past the post.
Maybe the next election but for now he won.
Sooty, it's not first past the post in Parliament. You need a majority, otherwise you don't have a right to form a Government.
True but a Lib Con coalition is a clear strong majority.
A Lab/Lib one will still need lots of others and will be quite fragile.
Quote: sootyj @ May 10 2010, 5:51 PM BSTCameron won the most seats he should head up a coalition government with the Libs.
That's baloney. Why should the LibDems be obliged to prop up the Tories? You might as well say the Labour Party has a duty to back the Tories in Government because they don't have as many seats. More legitimately you could argue that Cameron has a right to form a minority Government if he doesn't get support from elsewhere but constitutionally if others can get together and show they can form a Government then the Queen will say yes to them rather than the minority party. That's why if you haven't got a majority, you haven't won, no matter how it is spun in the papers.
Quote: sootyj @ May 10 2010, 6:18 PM BSTTrue but a Lib Con coalition is a clear strong majority.
A Lab/Lib one will still need lots of others and will be quite fragile.
A Con-Lab coalition would be a very strong majority but you can't just add up the numbers and say that works. Ideology has to come into it, otherwise there really is no essence of democracy in our system.
Quote: sootyj @ May 10 2010, 6:18 PM BSTTrue but a Lib Con coalition is a clear strong majority.
A Lib Con coalition was always a non-starter. But Clegg had to talk to them first.
Quote: sootyj @ May 10 2010, 5:51 PM BSTCameron won the most seats he should head up a coalition government with the Libs.
The trouble with that is that by using that 'moral' logic that Cameron won most so should be in Government, Lib Dems not only won least but LOST seats, so why them?
Quote: sootyj @ May 10 2010, 6:18 PM BSTTrue but a Lib Con coalition is a clear strong majority.
A Lab/Lib one will still need lots of others and will be quite fragile.
I think any flavour of coalition - considering the current seat distribution, party policies, and huge issues facing the country - would be pretty fragile. Less so for Conservative/Liberal because they'd have a greater majority, but still liable to collapse.