Thank you.
Ban the Burka? Page 12
Quote: DaButt @ May 2 2010, 1:10 PM BSTSounds fabulous. If you're male.
Well we don't know what motivated the women to choose to use the Sharia courts, but it was their choice. Dedication to their faith? Coercion?
It's a shame there aren't any Muslim voices here to give their opinions.
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ May 2 2010, 1:20 PM BSTThank you.
No probs!
This kind of crap worries me far more than the fact that some Muslims want Sharia law.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/02/conservatives-philippa-stroud-gay-cure
A high-flying prospective Conservative MP, credited with shaping many of the party's social policies, founded a church that tried to "cure" homosexuals by driving out their "demons" through prayer.
Philippa Stroud, who is likely to win the Sutton and Cheam seat on Thursday and is head of the Centre for Social Justice, the thinktank set up by the former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith, has heavily influenced David Cameron's beliefs on subjects such as the family.
Next week, this woman is likely to be in our legislature, and possibly later also our executive.
Quote: Nogget @ May 2 2010, 1:22 PM BSTIt's a shame there aren't any Muslim voices here to give their opinions.
https://www.comedy.co.uk/forums/thread/17280/
A few choice quotes:
NO, we were created to worship Him to be examed. who obey Him will Go to PARADISE and those who don't will go to hell.
63. Know they not that for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, is the Fire of Hell?- wherein they shall dwell. That is the supreme disgrace.
Religion controls our lives
Sorry, I can't understand why you used those quotes here. What is your point?
Quote: Nogget @ May 2 2010, 4:14 PM BSTSorry, I can't understand why you used those quotes here. What is your point?
I was wondering that too. It must be that all spammers are representative of considered opinion.
I thought he was just making a joke that there was a Muslim here once. But he was unfortunately a nutjob.
Quote: Nogget @ May 2 2010, 4:14 PM BSTSorry, I can't understand why you used those quotes here. What is your point?
You said that there were no Muslims here and I pointed out that there is at least one. I also pointed out that his/her contribution to the board seemed to be entirely devoted to shilling for Islam and promising a fiery eternity in Hell for nonbelievers, something that is relevant to our ongoing discussion of Islam and how well it is/isn't blending in within Europe and the UK.
I was half right!
Har har!! Oh why was he banned? Not fair! That's the best fun I've had this century.
Quote: DaButt @ May 2 2010, 4:23 PM BSTI also pointed out that his/her contribution to the board seemed to be entirely devoted to shilling for Islam and promising a fiery eternity in Hell for nonbelievers, something that is relevant to our ongoing discussion of Islam and how well it is/isn't blending in within Europe and the UK.
OK, well I'm not sure I accept that poster's rantings as making a useful example. Perhaps this recent news story would better make your point? It's about a talented headmistress who was allegedly forced to quit by Muslim governers.
Quote: DaButt @ May 2 2010, 12:18 PM BSTOf course not. But polls have shown that 40 percent of UK Muslims want sharia law in the UK and 30% think people who leave the religion should be executed. That's a healthy chunk of the population and it's made scarier by the fact that the younger citizens are more likely to be radicalized than their parents and grandparents, many of whom emigrated to the UK to get away from that sort of stuff.
I guess I'd rather make my own decisions about how I see people acting rather than base it on polls I have no idea about. I live in South London and go to university in East London. I've spent the majority of my life surrounded by people of the Muslim faith and I have friends who are of the faith or raised in the faith. I don't think any of them would subscribe to these views.
Quote: Nogget @ May 2 2010, 4:39 PM BSTOK, well I'm not sure I accept that poster's rantings as making a useful example. Perhaps this recent news story would better make your point? It's about a talented headmistress who was allegedly forced to quit by Muslim governers.
Bleh. Those two governors, Paul Martin and Mumtaz Saleem, sound like absolute pricks. Also, worth noting that the bureaucracy failed to protect the headteacher at all. I'm not detracting from the fact that this is a clear instance of one religion that has got out of control here but this sort of thing happens up and down the country because of the way the school system is. It's a depressing part of a depressing picture.
In a bid to cooperate, she held a meeting to try to address Mr Martin's worries, and invited Surrey County Council to chair it. During the discussions, the new governor made explosive allegations against two teachers whom he said had expressed anti-Muslim sentiments at an away-day a year earlier.
Mrs Connor immediately investigated and found that both teachers in question, one of whom was herself a Muslim, denied his allegations "vehemently". She wrote to Mr Martin with her findings and hoped that was the end of it.
At that point there they really should've kicked the governor out - he was clearly either a moron or someone with a disgusting agenda.
What a sad and frightening story, but having lived there for nearly ten years I am not surprised something like that could happen. They were known as quite a hard line Muslim community, being Pakistan Muslim, these are the extremists. I remember they had a permanent police guard at the entrance to their mosque for a couple of months following the 2005 atrocities. Some of their young males were really bolshy, surly troublemakers (funny how their pious religion allows this). Not really surprised their parents are the same. I don't miss them or the town.
Quote: Nogget @ May 2 2010, 1:04 PM BSTSo perhaps some of the 40% were saying they wanted this sort of court as an option.
There should be one form of law and court that we all adhere too, no matter where you're from. If you settle in a country, you should accept you have to live by their laws.