General Election 2010 Page 7

And off to prison you'd go!

But register for a postal vote and vote for everyone.

Quote: DaButt @ March 14 2010, 5:19 PM GMT

Similar to Europeans' distorted view of health care in the United States.

Governments sometimes have to make unpopular decisions, but they shouldn't ignore public opinion when it comes to spending trillions of taxpayer dollars.

Polls show that 96% of Americans would like to see changes to the health care system, but any bill that requires billions of dollars in "bribes" to win the votes of elected officials is fatally flawed. Everyone with half a brain realizes that it's a bad bill that will add to the deficit, line the pockets of insurance companies and result in care that is more expensive and of lesser quality for most Americans.

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Part of the problem and need for bribes is the sheer resistance. HMOs make a fortune and don't want to give that up.

Quote: sootyj @ March 15 2010, 9:49 AM GMT

And off to prison you'd go!

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Really? That's illegal?? Hows that work?

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ March 15 2010, 9:45 AM GMT

And that is exactly why we should not be forced to vote, as they are in Australia - the low turn out should serve as a message that current MPs are not trusted. It is up to them to change, not the electorate.

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It's quite certainly up to the electorate, not the politicians. Why should the politicians have to change when the current set up quite clearly favours them? It's in their interests to peddle a middle-of-the-road style of politics without really changing too much.

Not going to vote doesn't serve as a message that MPs aren't trusted, it just shows they haven't f**ked up enough yet to be got rid of.

I kind of wish we were forced to vote, but I kind of get why we aren't. I just wish more people genuinely cared, I guess. I will go to the polling even if it's just to spoil my ballot or stop some Tories or even to vote for the party/MP I think is best disposed to help us.

When I'm MP for general awesomeness people will move to the UK just to vote for me, and for a time it'll be good.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ March 15 2010, 9:32 AM GMT

I'm just waiting for the next revelation to hit the tabloids - I predict this election run up to be the dirtiest in history - It is so close now that one little skeleton could turn the tide in one party's favour. All the investigative hacks are working overtime at the mo going through the primary school reports of every junior minister and each party has its own ex tabloid dirt digger camping on the steps of some opposition MP's house. Who's going to be the first to slip up I wonder? Can't wait for the dirt to start flying, I think it's great fun.

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It certainly gives a good chuckle, but they go on and on and on about it so much now, it's no wonder that so few people take an interest in politics anymore. I find it terribly tiresome, and distracting from things that do actually matter.

Quote: sootyj @ March 15 2010, 9:39 AM GMT

DaButt though's are the things

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In all honesty, I have never seen that particular spelling before. You're in a whole league of your own, sooty!

Could any real politician of character survive these days? Churchill drunk and debt ridden, Bevin full on socialist etc etc.

I want a real politician damn it! I want some one to raise taxes, push people into work, break up NHS cabals etc etc.

Quote: sootyj @ March 15 2010, 11:27 AM GMT

Could any real politician of character survive these days? Churchill drunk and debt ridden, Bevin full on socialist etc etc.

I want a real politician damn it! I want some one to raise taxes, push people into work, break up NHS cabals etc etc.

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There was a documentary how politicians can no longer change things due to chasing populous and media support. So no big changes are ever made incase of upsetting the voters and losing out on a second/third term.

That and most of them being money hungry crooks.

Quote: Gavin @ March 15 2010, 11:36 AM GMT

There was a documentary how politicians can no longer change things due to chasing populous and media support. So no big changes are ever made incase of upsetting the voters and losing out on a second/third term.

That and most of them being money hungry crooks.

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They're human beings much like you and me. More you, obviously.

Quote: chipolata @ March 15 2010, 11:45 AM GMT

They're human beings much like you and me. More you, obviously.

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Then I move that the machines take over.

Although that is bound for disaster as machines can't function properly because they are programmed by humans.

I will consider this and come back to you.

Quote: chipolata @ March 15 2010, 11:45 AM GMT

They're human beings much like you and me.

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Plus I've also always hated that as an excuse for wrong doings.

Quote: Aaron @ March 15 2010, 11:20 AM GMT

In all honesty, I have never seen that particular spelling before. You're in a whole league of your own, sooty!

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Agreed.

It's more a dyspraxic word substitution kinda thing.

And politicians aren't money hungry. The changes in the 80s and 90s saw to them being incapable of little more than expense fiddles.

What they are, are inadequate soulless political employees.

Quote: sootyj @ March 15 2010, 11:53 AM GMT

What they are, are inadequate soulless political employees.

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That'll do I'll retract Money Hungrey for a vastly superior description.

I can forgive fraud and theft in a competent, commited politician.

What was the word supposed to be, Sooty?
I'm a bit thick today.

Quote: zooo @ March 15 2010, 12:05 PM GMT

What was the word supposed to be, Sooty?
I'm a bit thick today.

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"those"