Much improved over the previous week's. Still not enough Tim though, although Tim did get to use his Audi gag from his stand up routine. 
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this episode was excellent. i get to watch them the second day, unfortunately.
i really enjoy this show and as long as i keep waiting for the next episode, it's doing great!
Quote: Seefacts @ October 1, 2007, 9:11 PMI also highlight 'It's like being on a Japanese game show' as one of the best one-liners in recent sitcom.
I thanyew.
Sorry, I'm about ten pages behind on this thread. Anyway glad to see the show is overall generally well-received (I'm one of the co-writers on it). And the criticisms are valid ones, though it's odd how everyone differs so much - I have friends who love the cleaner character and just laugh whenever she appears, and others who don't quite click with her. And some prefer Lucy to Kate, some don't...
Either way it's a show that I'm very pleased with for the gag-rate - that's what I think will always distinguish it from others who are happy with 2-3 laughs a page instead of 6-7 as Lee insists on. It's a good discipline, because after all, it's a comedy, and that's meant to make people laugh above all else.
Welcome Krenz 
I'm beginning to warm to Lucy now, she looks a lot more relaxed and natural.
Try and use Tim with Lee more, well all want it.
Quote: Krenz @ October 14, 2007, 10:03 PMEither way it's a show that I'm very pleased with for the gag-rate - that's what I think will always distinguish it from others who are happy with 2-3 laughs a page instead of 6-7 as Lee insists on. It's a good discipline, because after all, it's a comedy, and that's meant to make people laugh above all else.
Hi Krenz, thanks for posting on these forums and congratulations on your success with the show.
There's just one point you made that I wouldn't entirely agree with in your post. I don't think a sitcom should be entirely focus on just making people laugh above all else. That's true for stand-up but if you look at all the great sitcoms of the past they all had strong story and drama too. The most successful sitcom from the uk is supposed to be the Office which doesn't have a single one-liner. You can go back to classics like Fawlty Towers, Blackadder, Hancock, Seinfield, Friends etc that all have great drama/story mixed in with the comedy. I personally feel that's what people love about their favourite sitcom: funny plus moving in some way.
I know NGO is meant to be a gag-fest and you've achieved that - there is no criticism there.
Welcome, welcome indeed.
Welcome Krenz.
And I agree with the posts above.
Not Going Out is really a gag vehicle (am I sounding pretentious?) rather than a sit com. And there's nothing really wrong with that.
Quote: ContainsNuts @ October 14, 2007, 11:20 PMI don't think a sitcom should be entirely focus on just making people laugh above all else. ... I personally feel that's what people love about their favourite sitcom: funny plus moving in some way.
Interesting thought. Would it not be the case that the drama, story, whatever, is there to provide the platform for the funny? I mean, you can have some kind of story (whether linear, as is the case with something like Gavin & Stacey, or insular, as with Hancock's Half Hour), but without the laughs it's just a drama. Stick the jokes back in, and a sitcom is in the making. Now take the story out and you're pretty much down to a standup act. But essentially the comedy is the driving force. No?
As for the wanting funny and moving, how do you define moving, exactly?
Welcome and well done on the sitcom. I love there being lots of jokes I wasn't too sure in the first series but I didn't see all of them now I love it. If you watch any old Only Fools and horses (ones with granddad are the best) and there can be a big story and jokes coming every 30 seconds. With the office there isnt anything funny (sorry not my kind of show) and NGO Gag after gag. Differing styles but different strokes for different folks. (I'm tired so I probably wrote a load of crap lol).
Hi Krenz, welcome to the BSG
Adam
Quote: Krenz @ October 14, 2007, 10:03 PMI have friends who love the cleaner character and just laugh whenever she appears
I think I’d fall in to that category then, I think it’s some of her mannerisms and glazed over expression that do it. Although the highlights are still in the bar, some of the jokes in there still make me grin. The 'shark' joke in this Fridays episode is the best one. ever.
Quote: Krenz @ October 14, 2007, 10:03 PMAnd some prefer Lucy to Kate, some don't...
Ah, Lucy 
Quote: Aaron @ October 14, 2007, 11:35 PMInteresting thought. Would it not be the case that the drama, story, whatever, is there to provide the platform for the funny? I mean, you can have some kind of story (whether linear, as is the case with something like Gavin & Stacey, or insular, as with Hancock's Half Hour), but without the laughs it's just a drama. Stick the jokes back in, and a sitcom is in the making. Now take the story out and you're pretty much down to a standup act. But essentially the comedy is the driving force. No?
As for the wanting funny and moving, how do you define moving, exactly?
Yeah, agreed, if you were ranking the importance of the sitcom ingredients then funny would be top - no doubt. I just don't think its the only thing that makes a sitcom successful, looking at the great ones of the past.
I was just picking up on a general point made by the co-writer, not having a go at NGO or anyone. I'm just bigging up the story factor - your analogy is good.
I don't think the story is always there as a platform, the award winning last episode of the Royale Family was very dramatic with a very low joke rate than usual yet it took nothing away from it and I'll remember that episode more than a lot of other sitcom episodes.
By moving I mean giving you something more than just laughter - maybe i'm confusing everyone?
Perhaps. 
Well, in answer by that definition, I personally couldn't care less if I'm "moved" or not by a sitcom - and in fact, if really pressed, probably would rather not. I just want to be amused, hopefully enough to lol. If I want something clever, serious, emotional, whatever, then I'll go for a drama or alike. Sitcoms, for me at least, are about being made to laugh. That's about it!
Maybe we're still working to totally different definitions though.
Quote: Aaron @ October 15, 2007, 9:25 AMPerhaps.
Well, in answer by that definition, I personally couldn't care less if I'm "moved" or not by a sitcom - and in fact, if really pressed, probably would rather not. I just want to be amused, hopefully enough to lol. If I want something clever, serious, emotional, whatever, then I'll go for a drama or alike. Sitcoms, for me at least, are about being made to laugh. That's about it!
Maybe we're still working to totally different definitions though.
Different horses for courses my friend. You are entitled to have your own definition. I thought we were agreeing that you need some drama to differentiate it from stand-up?
I can't see a negative in being moved by something. Would you watch a drama and would rather it didn't make you laugh a few times? I don't think either should stick rigidly to one. But anyway, I think its a bonus if you are pleasantly moved by a sitcom or anything but I'm not saying being moved is a requirement. I think a bit of drama is - IMHO, and I think that's why the classics are so. That's all.
Does anybody else find the incidental music on this show very annoying? Not since Joan Baez screeched her way through Silent Running has music irritated me so much.