The death, dying and dead thread Page 8

Quote: EllieJP @ January 20 2010, 9:08 AM GMT

I do too. I imagine me dying all the time. My boyfriend says I'm a freak for it, but I have these "premonitions" all the time. I'll be walking under some scaffolding and I imagine a pole falling and going straight through my head, or tripping up on a curb and my jaw smashing, and being on my bike and going over the handle bars into a lamp post. Yes I know, very horror movie deaths but imagine having two of those a day. Ironically, I will go on to live a happy life dying in my sleep at 87.

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Does that mean you're going to still be posting here in 2068! Oh. Dear. God.

I am at my three year mark in March! Mad!

But I doubt it, I'm hoping to have got a life by then.

Quote: EllieJP @ January 20 2010, 9:18 AM GMT

I am at my three year mark in March! Mad! But I doubt it, I'm hoping to have got a life by then.

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Well in maybe 60 years I'll give up BCG.

Quote: EllieJP @ January 20 2010, 9:08 AM GMT

I do too.

I imagine me dying all the time. My boyfriend says I'm a freak for it, but I have these "premonitions" all the time.

I'll be walking under some scaffolding and I imagine a pole falling and going straight through my head, or tripping up on a curb and my jaw smashing, and being on my bike and going over the handle bars into a lamp post.

Yes I know, very horror movie deaths but imagine having two of those a day. Ironically, I will go on to live a happy life dying in my sleep at 87.

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Well if you have multiple premonitions about your own fate, than it's safe to assume that you're a cat.

Would they only be premonitions if they came true, because that's a LOT of different ways of dying.

My imagination is too wild.

I'm not sure of the definition. But my point is that you can only die once, and you've "for seen" multiple ways you might die. So they must cancel out each other?

Hmmm maybe. Today I fell off my chair and hit the back of my head on the chest by the side of my table.

Maybe being dead is better than being alive? And it's only the poor sods left behind who suffer.

Quote: scratchyr @ January 20 2010, 9:17 AM GMT

Let's enjoy it while we can.

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Yes but that sentiment only works if there is some permanence after death, some way of reflecting on the enjoyment you had. If there's nothing when you die, all this will have been an irrelevance, a non-event: your family, your memories, your emotions, everything that the human mind uses to scrabble some sense out of being here is wiped out as if you'd never existed. Whether you'd had a great life or a miserable one filled with pain, whether you'd achieved your ambitions or been the utmost failure, it effectively never happened. That minute slice of light sandwiched between two infinite gulfs of nothingness wouldn't even be like a lingering dream.

Either option - nothingness or some sense of permanence - seem to be unattractive in my current state of mind.

Black, black, everything's black.

Quote: EllieJP @ January 20 2010, 1:49 PM GMT

Hmmm maybe. Today I fell off my chair and hit the back of my head on the chest by the side of my table.

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*adds Benny Hill music to Ellie life*

Quote: Leevil @ January 20 2010, 1:53 PM GMT

*adds Benny Hill music to Ellie life*

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Quote: SlagA @ January 20 2010, 1:53 PM GMT

Yes but that sentiment only works if there is some permanence after death, some way of reflecting on the enjoyment you had. If there's nothing when you die, all this will have been an irrelevance, a non-event: your family, your memories, your emotions, everything that the human mind uses to scrabble some sense out of being here is wiped out as if you'd never existed. Whether you'd had a great life or a miserable one filled with pain, whether you'd achieved your ambitions or been the utmost failure, it effectively never happened. That minute slice of light sandwiched between two infinite gulfs of nothingness wouldn't even be like a lingering dream.

Either option - nothingness or some sense of permanence - seem to be unattractive in my current state of mind.

Black, black, everything's black.

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Which is why I want to believe in Heaven. Thinking that there will just be "nothing" just freaks me out.

Quote: Leevil @ January 20 2010, 1:53 PM GMT

*adds Benny Hill music to Ellie life*

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Quote: SlagA @ January 20 2010, 1:53 PM GMT

If there's nothing when you die, all this will have been an irrelevance, a non-event: your family, your memories, your emotions, everything that the human mind uses to scrabble some sense out of being here is wiped out as if you'd never existed. Whether you'd had a great life or a miserable one filled with pain, whether you'd achieved your ambitions or been the utmost failure, it effectively never happened. That minute slice of light sandwiched between two infinite gulfs of nothingness wouldn't even be like a lingering dream.

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Which is why...

Quote: scratchyr @ January 20 2010, 9:17 AM GMT

Let's enjoy it while we can.

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Because you can't once you're gone.

The last sentence is killer btw SlagA. One of yours?

Quote: scratchyr @ January 20 2010, 2:31 PM GMT

Because you can't (enjoy life) once you're gone.

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Yes, but that's kinda my point. Once you're gone, all that life can offer is immaterial. How you spent your life becomes irrelevant. If I believe that there is nothing beyond life but still strive to collect memories, love, or achieve ambition then I've failed to understand the impact of my belief in nothingness. I'm still trying to sneak the notion of permanence into a state of non-being.

What happened here is utterly disconnected from you. It's not that it would seem as if it never happened (because that still implies memory of what happened here), it's (to each individual) that this life never happened.

Quote: scratchyr @ January 20 2010, 2:31 PM GMT

The last sentence one of yours?

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Yep, but I'm most likely only repackaging other people's thoughts.