Think you're the saviour of British comedy? Page 2

Quote: Matthew Stott @ December 26 2009, 1:27 PM GMT

I think most writers just want to create good stuff, they aren't thinking about being some sort of 'saviour', really.

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True. My aim is to create good stuff but as a comedy fan I want someone to come along with a decent sitcom which is not in any way comprimised in the same way the writers of The Royle Family and The Office.

I get the impression people just aren't keen that someone should be seen as a saviour of british comedy but I am sure you will admit that most decades have seen groundbreaking innovators (Galton and Simpson, The Likely Lads creators, Cleese and Booth, Gervias and Merchant, Aherne and Cash) which makes them the equivilant of saviours.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ December 26 2009, 1:55 PM GMT

I think it a noble thing to think oneself can be the saviour of anything.

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Or it could be seen as a messiah complex.

Are you calling Ronnie a very naughty boy?

The word "saviour" somehow implies that there weren't any other writers at the time who could have matched their writing/shows, Ronnie. There most likely were, you just won't have heard of them. The breaks didn't go their way. I'd always be mindful that every successful original writer still needs a fair good slice of luck/happy chance in order to make it. This year I've experienced how a few little random events can conspire to result in one's show not getting filmed. Just have to hope for some better luck next year, that's all.

Quote: Nogget @ December 26 2009, 2:05 PM GMT

Or it could be seen as a messiah complex.

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"You see Mr Cohen, my father - God - sent me down to Earth and instructed me to write a six part comedy series about paralegal office workers. And to kill prostitutes and gays."

Okay I can see your point about the use of the word saviour as it is true others may have had equal talent.

From the sounds of it you must be odds on to be filmed in the next few years and my point about me believing I myself will be a successful comedy writer is that if you spend long enough working at it then eventually you will get too good for people to ignore you and even bad luck will not be able to prevent success.

I also think that if the stuff that has been worked on is totally individual, by that I mean not just writing what you think the producers want to read, then it will put the writer in line for, if not saviour status, being highly acclaimed and successful.

A factor which may tend to act against Britain's wannabe TV comedy writers is the ever-expanding influence of Islam.

I have no doubt that, in a very few years' time, there will be only two TV channels available to us: one broadcasting religious programmes and another showing beheadings, stonings and floggings.

The best we can hope for is that the latter will be narrated by Harry Hill or the bloke who does 'Come Dine With Me'.

Although I posted a comedy sketch here that I wasn't sure of... I have a wide range of really bizarre sketches that are like python.

this is what british comedy needs, cheap sketches that are as bizarre as python without the pop culture references. and funny.

Yes, perhaps so. Would be good to see your sketches.

I think the problem is is that sometimes if you write something organically it could be too different for people to 'get' it especially if they are judging it as a critic and not as an audience member. The negative criticism can put people off and mean they conform too much and this is possibly part of the problem as to why a lot of the writing is so bland.

I don't understand British telly sometimes. The celebs bang on and on about how Monty Python was the greatest comedy ever created on UK television but at the same time nobody wants to fund that kind of comedy. If it's the greatest influence, you would think that it would be worthwhile to encourage bizarre surreal comedy.

Do the commissioners REALLY think that the youth of today are so stupid and ill informed of TV history. Is there a level of 'We're more enlightened than the youth of today but we have to pander to them because they won't get it'. Most people under the age of 20 that I have spoken to where I have mentioned Monty Python are huge fans of it.

I think Russell Howard is the Saviour.

Quote: David Carmon @ December 27 2009, 6:07 AM GMT

I think Russell Howard is the Saviour.

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He certainly gets crucified here.

Russel Howard is an example of what is bad about comedy. He is a likeable guy and actually very talented but I am pretty sure his show will eaily be cancelled in place of the Saviours (whoever it is be it me, Tim, Renegade possibly fancies himself in this role).

Quote: Ronnie Anderson @ December 27 2009, 10:36 AM GMT

the Saviours (whoever it is be it me, Tim, Renegade ).

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*Screams* Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Renegade is the potential saviour of a planet far, far away where men have died out and all 3 billion women need impregnating.

I think he'd be more use on that other planet where there aren't any women, just 3 billion men who need an extra one to join in their pissing contest.