Quote: Dolly Dagger @ December 18 2009, 2:37 PM GMTHave you never seen The Moon and The Sledgehammer?
Mr Page: Oh no, you wouldn't want a monkey helping you. He'd take your spanner and run away with it. Oh no, a monkey's no good.
I don't listen to Hip Hop
Quote: Tim Walker @ December 18 2009, 2:46 PM GMTHuman beings eat more lions every year than lions eat human beings... Fact. (Probably.) We have guns. Do the lions have guns now? No, I didn't think so.
But whether we have one or not, and whether it works, is down to circumstances and a bit of luck. The lions will always have their teeth and claws handy!
Quote: Moonstone @ December 18 2009, 2:48 PM GMTBut whether we have one or not, and whether it works, is down to circumstances and a bit of luck. The lions will always have their teeth and claws handy!
Yes, but they have not yet successfully found a way of navigating the oceans, so I'm sitting here feeling nice and smug, thank you. Stroking my imaginary gun. 
Plus, lions have to hunt their food, where as we just go down to Tesco. 
Here's Mr Page's words of wisdom on working with different sorts animals.
Quote: Tim Walker @ December 18 2009, 2:46 PM GMTHuman beings eat more lions every year than lions eat human beings... Fact. (Probably.) We have guns. Do the lions have guns now? No, I didn't think so.
Thus we win!
Quote: Tim Walker @ December 18 2009, 2:49 PM GMTYes, but they have not yet successfully found a way of navigating the oceans, so I'm sitting here feeling nice and smug, thank you. Stroking my imaginary gun.
Well, as I said, go with Gav and tell them aaaall about that 
Quote: Moonstone @ December 18 2009, 2:53 PM GMTWell, as I said, go with Gav and tell them aaaall about that
Since when did you get so pally with the lions, anyway? What have they ever done for you?
Quote: Tim Walker @ December 18 2009, 2:58 PM GMTSince when did you get so pally with the lions, anyway? What have they ever done for you?
Ate Christians.
Quote: Moonstone @ December 18 2009, 3:08 PM GMTAte Christians.
A myth, sir! A myth! Don't you watch your QI like a good boy? *tuts* No evidence that Christians were ever thrown to the lions, or fought them, or anything like that. It's thought likely just to have been a bit of anti-Roman propaganda (probably put around by the Jews, ironically).
Quote: Tim Walker @ December 18 2009, 3:12 PM GMTA myth, sir! A myth! Don't you watch your QI like a good boy? *tuts* No evidence that Christians were ever thrown to the lions, or fought them, or anything like that. It's thought likely just to have been a bit of anti-Roman propaganda (probably put around by the Jews, ironically).
That's just what they tell the lions to hurt their pride.
Thank you, I've been Moonstone.
Quote: Moonstone @ December 18 2009, 3:16 PM GMTThat's just what they tell the lions to hurt their pride.
Thank you, I've been Moonstone.
That's what all this lion talk has been about, hasn't it? Just so you could (eventually) get to that gag! 
Quote: Tim Walker @ December 18 2009, 3:17 PM GMT
That's what all this lion talk has been about, hasn't it? Just so you could (eventually) get to that gag!
It was a damned good un though 
Quote: Moonstone @ December 18 2009, 3:20 PM GMTIt was a damned good un though
Quote: Tim Walker @ December 18 2009, 3:12 PM GMTA myth, sir! A myth!
Sorry to disagree but I think we're witnessing the rewriting of a modern myth - that such things didn't happen. But to do so would ignore the writings of the people from that period.
While there is no direct link of lions and Christians, there is a latin phrase for such a death: Damnatio ad bestias, which involved stitching victims up inside the bodies of prey animals, or simply throwing people to wild beasts in the arena. Ad bestia was a cover-all for any animal capable of killing a man that could be found in the amphitheatres. These were usually dogs, leopards or bears but would have inevitably included lions at some point during the lengthy tradition.
Tertullian and Tacitus both mention this form of death. As do others.
No one group was singled out but members of most minority groups would have found themselves victims of lions. So inevitably one would have most likely met the other at some point in the arena, just not intentionally. If I recall correctly. Although Tertullian does indicate there was particular intent in combining the two.
To state that it never happened is to ignore the Roman culture, its ghoulish fascination with death as entertainment and / or state justice, and its novel sense of invention in that area.
Quote: Griff @ December 18 2009, 4:40 PM GMTI don't believe the Roman culture happened SlagA. Where's your evidence?
Touche!