Quote: EllieJP @ November 19 2009, 4:13 PM GMTRight at the end when they're wrapping up the show, I'm behind Jeremy ish.
I hope you're wearing a...oh f**k it, I did that joke once and it died on its arse.
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Quote: Leevil @ November 19 2009, 4:14 PM GMTCool, will look out for you, Eleanor!
This is what I was wearing...
Hah! We'll look out for the guy with the big spot too!
If only Nil was here, Face In The Hole opportunity - missed! 
Yeah he was really embarassed about that. Couldn't believe it came up before the filming.
Quote: EllieJP @ November 19 2009, 4:21 PM GMT
This is what I was wearing...
I've seen him in contact mags. Although he usually wears a black oblong rather than a black circle.
Quote: EllieJP @ November 19 2009, 4:21 PM GMT
Has he been working at the Large Hadron Collider?
Proud of your man then, Ellie.
Yes, of course. I just thought he wouldn't want his face posted on the net. I didn't ask his permission.
Top Gear is awful; the braying mob begs the vile jester to 'do' a funny about France, and how they laugh, how they laugh! Just dreadful.
I like you Jim. You speak your mind... not many people who are wrong all the time do. 
Top Gear is like contemporary art, highly controversial, and happy to indulge in the absurd. Take, for instance, the example of them firing cars at caravans. That was a worthy performance piece, which had it been done by a trendy Hoxton-dweller, would have been debated by academics.
Or driving across the Channel in a half-made carboat, which was anarchic, anti-establishment, and reckless.
The only difference is that they make it entertaining.
I hear what you're saying Nogget, but the reality is far different.
It is sinister; xenephobic, regularly homophobic, drivel, packaged as some kind of 'fight the pc brigade' remedy.
For anyone in any doubt, there is NO IRONY in this show - it is the televisual equivalent of the daily mail for men. Garbage.
Quote: jim field @ November 20 2009, 10:18 AM GMTIt is sinister;
Oh I agree, but that only makes it more like contemporary art. How cruel is it to present a fish in a blende, and ask the gallery goer to choose whether to switch it on? What about having a rotting cow's head complete with maggots, newly-hatched bluebottle flies, and an "insectocutor" to electrocute them?
I hate what they promote, but they do it very effectively, not that that should in any way excuse it.
I'd agree with that; I appreciate the skill with which they draw in their demographic - it is very 'modern', but also has something of the Victorian about it.
Top Gear viewers represent the 'fodder' demographic; utterley gullible and eager to please.
Top Gear succeeds not only because of the obvious love that the presenters (notably Mr Clarkson) put into their show, but also because of the superb production values. When they go out and film something the footage is immaculate. The money is up there on screen where it matters. It becomes more than a show about cars. It's a treat just for those who enjoy spectacular photography as well.
Quote: jim field @ November 20 2009, 10:49 AM GMTTop Gear viewers represent the 'fodder' demographic; utterley gullible and eager to please.
Rubbish, Jim, the average Top Gear viewer is almost precisely the opposite of this.