Quote: Renegade Carpark @ November 9 2009, 9:58 PM GMTOn a side note, I hate the way the arrival of Christmas is getting earlier and earlier - I mean Channel Four are hanging Glitter at the beginning of November.
I thang yew.
If only his name was Gary Tinsel.
What a horribley tawdry thing this show is.
Has Going Under Brown sold Channel 4 to the Sun?
I watched it. It was ok - ish, better than if ITV had of done it, then it would be even more trashy and sensationalist with Trevor Macdonald all over it and Mylene Klass playing Glitter.
I think some of the acting was very hammy but overall it was watchable.
Next up - The Resurection of Saddam Hussein - where they re-animate his corpse and take over the world.
Could they recreate the hanging of Sadam Hussein with George Galloway?
And they don't fake the hanging.
Nah use Gordon Brown instead.
Of course to make it realistic you would have to starve him for 6 months to get his fat arse some weight loss.
All seemed a load of bollocks really.
The use of Glitter removed any credability it might have had, obviously used him to get the ratings up. Which of course worked because I watched it.
The change in all the laws was very unbeliavable - firstly I can't see the DP being introduced and secondly the complete lack of an appeals process just wouldn't happen.
It felt all a bit dead man walking at the end.
And where as Mr Glitter is a bit of a shit, this was libellous and gratuitous in the extreme.
I would agree with that.
I did like the bit at the end where he picks up the radio and hears that due to downloads he is at number 1, thinking it's one of his hits only to hear a novelty record made from clips of him speaking in court etc. hahahaha
But just imagine if any of his hits made it back in the charts next week now.
Just watched this.
Wasted opportunity? If somebody wanted to make a death-penalty film, this would have been the perfect concept -- take somebody universally reviled, make his conviction ambiguous, make you feel his death.
It didn't seem to try that, and it didn't seem to be exploring any other issues, so I'm wondering what the point was.
The first thing that popped into my mind was that this film was to the death penalty what Trainspotting was to heroin addiction -- an excuse for a 90-minute music video.
Was the film of Trainspotting really even attempting to be about heroin addiction? I thought it was more a paean to doomed youth, about having to grow-up and live in the "adult world". With Renton at the end of the film both betraying his youth by "selling out" to live within society, but at the same time finding salvation in being "conservative" with a (very) small 'c' and growing-up.
I'm not saying that this was your point, Kev, but I don't think the team behind it thought they were making a docu-drama about the grim meat-hook realities of heroin addiction.
You're right Tim. That was just off the top of my head. Not a very good comparison.
But this Glitter film had about as much to say about the death penalty as Trainspotting did about addicition, is probably a better way of phrasing it.
Plus, as a drama it didn't work for me. There were a few good performances, but it didn't hang together as a whole for me and the few LOL moments ruined any semblance of seriousness.
Have it recorded, will get around to watching it soon.
The interesting thing about the debate over capital punishment in this country, is that it has been about the one area that MPs have been consistently non-partisan about over 30 plus years of various governments.
Every so often there is public opinion poll held (by whoever) and they have pretty much always shown a majority in favour of a return to capital punishment for certain crimes. Indeed, within ten or so years after the death penalty was abolished, the first polls showing that the public would perhaps like it back were appearing.
This is one area where governments and MPs of all parties have consistently always ignored the wishes of the public. Personally I am glad that no party has ever tried to bring back capital punishment as a short-termist popular policy. Since we're signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights now, of course, they couldn't anyway.
It's interesting though that every time the death penalty debate even stirs into the public consciousness there is a concerted effort by both politicians and the media to bury it again, as quickly and with as little discussion as possible.
I'll probably have a much better insight after watching this programme, of course, but I don't understand C4's interest in trying to spark debate on a matter which will never become even a serious proposition in the foreseeable future of this country.
Quote: Tim Walker @ November 10 2009, 1:04 AM GMTI'll probably have a much better insight after watching this programme, of course,
I think you know you won't.
