Quote: zooo @ November 9 2009, 4:49 PM GMTOn a side note, I would really like to see some genuine 1950s porn.
The ladies were often airbrused rather than waxed, because the hair was deemed too much to see - now it's the opposite.
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Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 4:51 PM GMTWell if you think about it, it makes perfect sense - especially if the arousal is tied in to the images being 'naughty'. An average victorian would have been turned on by a girl in a bikini (if they'd existed), porn not being as prevelant then, that doesn't have much effect nowadays.
Porn, sex and rape are not inventions of the 21st Century.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 4:51 PM GMTAn average victorian would have been turned on by a girl in a bikini
As opposed to nowadays, when a movie like Bikini Carwash Company II could never be made.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 4:45 PM GMTHuman sexuality is often tied up with the forbidden and prohibited, because many people's earliest sexual experiences are tied up to being made to feel that it's dirty or wrong. Hence as soon as images become so familiar they do not arouse as much, more graphic or 'deviant' images are needed to have the same effect.
The economic facts speak for themselves, the porn websites that seem to do the most business have nothing to do with the more 'extreme' elements of sexual behaviour.
We can be deadly dull us men when it comes to the old bongo material.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 4:51 PM GMTWell if you think about it, it makes perfect sense - especially if the arousal is tied in to the images being 'naughty'. An average victorian would have been turned on by a girl in a bikini (if they'd existed), porn not being as prevelant then, that doesn't have much effect nowadays.
Ah, so you don't mean to one person, per se. As in, if a particular porn film turned someone on, after a few viewings they'd have to find something else because it would become too familiar to them?
That I don't personally agree with.
Quote: Aaron @ November 9 2009, 4:28 PM GMTYou're really not doing anything for your "I understand porn" case, Dolly.
I dunno, Aaron, I think there is truth in this, though there are enough 'genres' to chop and change when you get bored of one without feeling the need to start looking at increasingly sick images.
Quote: Aaron @ November 9 2009, 4:51 PM GMTSorry, but the fact that you immediately jump down to such a level says a lot.
Please explain how and why people use pornography then. If it's not to get sexually aroused I've obviously missed something.
Quote: Marc P @ November 9 2009, 4:51 PM GMTHere you go.
Towards end of an interesting article.
Thanks Marco. 
*reads*
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 4:48 PM GMTSorry, but why does everyone have to keep denying this link? It's been proven - that might make you all feel bad - but it's a fact!
But it's pretty irrelevant. Not all rapists are porn users, let alone heavy porn users. Equally, not all heavy porn users are rapists. As someone said earlier, people who have the mentality that would allow them to commit rape would do so anyway, regardless of what porn they may access. The statistics that have shown that such crimes fall when porn is available are far more telling.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ November 9 2009, 4:54 PM GMTThe economic facts speak for themselves, the porn websites that seem to do the most business have nothing to do with the more 'extreme' elements of sexual behaviour.
We can be deadly dull us men when it comes to the old bongo material.
But it has changed over the years. I'm not going to go into details but certain acts are now considered mainstream.
And you only have to read the text to see that women are being seen as really stupid idiots - there's a real misogyny there.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 4:51 PM GMTWell if you think about it, it makes perfect sense - especially if the arousal is tied in to the images being 'naughty'. An average victorian would have been turned on by a girl in a bikini (if they'd existed), porn not being as prevelant then, that doesn't have much effect nowadays.
Something making sense doesn't make it true. I watch sitcoms repeatedly and rarely find diminishing returns. I don't watch or look at porn that much, but my tastes haven't changed any, nor have they through what I actually may be interested in doing myself, in real life. Yeah, ok, there may be some people who need stronger stuff, but then there are for any given consumable, and they're in the relative minority.
Quote: Aaron @ November 9 2009, 4:55 PM GMTBut it's pretty irrelevant. Not all rapists are porn users, let alone heavy porn users. Equally, not all heavy porn users are rapists. As someone said earlier, people who have the mentality that would allow them to commit rape would do so anyway, regardless of what porn they may access. The statistics that have shown that such crimes fall when porn is available are far more telling.
Tell that to people who have been raped or suffered years of abuse.
I just think you're all kidding yourselves to some degree to make yourselves feel better and there's not a lot more I can say.
I think it is fairly well documented that women are more turned on by the written word in matters pornographic and men more the visual stimuli.
The word itself comes from pictures of prostitues I believe. So eotica may be stuff with an intellectual conceit about it and your basic porno may be stuff to just errr.. 'wank over'.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 4:48 PM GMTSorry, but why does everyone have to keep denying this link? It's been proven - that might make you all feel bad - but it's a fact!
Is that what I did?? 
Quote: Aaron @ November 9 2009, 4:58 PM GMTSomething making sense doesn't make it true. I watch sitcoms repeatedly and rarely find diminishing returns.
If you can watch the same funny lines or scene over and over again and still find as funny that, I wouldn't think, is the norm.