Quote: Tim Walker @ November 9 2009, 3:02 PM GMTmost blokes could successfully masturbate over a silhouette of a vaguely vagina-shaped owl.
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Quote: Tim Walker @ November 9 2009, 3:02 PM GMTPorn has absolutely nothing to do with a man's personal relationships or his general appreciation of women.
But sadly it does. Pornography has been connected to rapes and murders.
If you all believe pornography has no bearing on how women are treated and seen then I think you're all deluded. 
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 3:05 PM GMTSo what about young men expecting their real life sexual partners to look and behave like the women they see in pornography?
A minority of virgins.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 3:09 PM GMTIf you all believe pornography has no bearing on how women are treated and seen then I think you're all deluded.
It does. But to a far lesser extent than you believe.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 3:09 PM GMTBut sadly it does. Pornography has been connected to rapes and murders.
If you all believe pornography has no bearing on how women are treated and seen then I think you're all deluded.
I seem to remember there was some stats that rape is down since the mid-1990s, when porn became so readily accessible.
Quote: Aaron @ November 9 2009, 3:10 PM GMTA minority of virgins.
Not at all. The number of women now undergoing cosmetic surgery procedures and hair waxing proves this. You only have to see how young girls pose on the social networking site photos to see how porn has a massive influence.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 3:05 PM GMTSo what about young men expecting their real life sexual partners to look and behave like the women they see in pornography? To say it's completely removed from your real sex life seems like denial to me. That's like the old line afrom someone who's had an affair that it was 'just sex' and didn;t mean anything.
If what you find attractive to wank over is so different from what you find attractive in real life just seems downright weird.
So what about young men?! There's some stupid bastards out there, but most people can identify between real life and fantasy.
This is an odd and rather repressive judgment by you, Dolly. I'm quite surprised.
Quote: Aaron @ November 9 2009, 3:11 PM GMTIt does. But to a far lesser extent than you believe.
You probably have to be a woman to realise this.
http://www.slate.com/id/2152487/
"A 10 percent increase in Net access yields about a 7.3 percent decrease in reported rapes. States that adopted the Internet quickly saw the biggest declines."
You guys might be interested in Annie Sprinkles interview with Mae Tyne http://www.anniesprinkle.org/html/writings/pocketporn.html. Views on both sides of the porn debate.
Quote: Leevil @ November 9 2009, 3:12 PM GMTSo what about young men?! There's some stupid bastards out there, but most people can identify between real life and fantasy.
This is an odd and rather repressive judgment by you, Dolly. I'm quite surprised.
Why repressed? The whole subject just seems sad to me. Would you like your girlfriend wanking over pictures of other men that she fantasises about? Would you wonder if she felt disappointed with you?
I've seen loads of posts from women on message boards who are really hurt because of their partner's use of porn and it damages real relationships. Saying "oh it's just a bit of fantasy, really I like fat flat-chested girls with loasds of body hair as long as they're intelligent", just seems like a massive excuse IMO.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 3:12 PM GMTNot at all. The number of women now undergoing cosmetic surgery procedures and hair waxing proves this. You only have to see how young girls pose on the social networking site photos to see how porn has a massive influence.
All this proves is that young women are the idiots.
How can you relate the violent act of rape to porn, when the very nature of it is to simulate sex that your are not having?
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 3:16 PM GMTWould you like your girlfriend wanking over pictures of other men that she fantasises about?
Again, you're showing the most basic misunderstanding of porn.
Quote: Aaron @ November 9 2009, 3:16 PM GMTAgain, you're showing the most basic misunderstanding of porn.
WTF? What is it there for? Art appreciation?
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 9 2009, 3:18 PM GMTWTF? What is it there for? Art appreciation?
Well it's certainly not for "fantasising" about people. It's the acts.