Quote: Leevil @ November 8 2009, 9:51 PM GMTIt's good and I'm a Gervais fan. There's just something uncomfortable about Andy Millman. The people he surrounds himself with are idiots, but so is he! There's not much contrast.
I don't get the impression he's an idiot at all. He's just an everyman character.
An everyidiot . . . ?
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 8 2009, 10:02 PM GMTI don't get the impression he's an idiot at all.
Me neither.
Quote: Nil Putters @ November 8 2009, 10:05 PM GMTMe neither.
He's like Tim in The Office; has flaws but ultimately the voice of reason and the person the audience can identify with.
Exactly.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 8 2009, 10:02 PM GMTI don't get the impression he's an idiot at all. He's just an everyman character.
I understand it's part of the character progression as he "becomes one of them" and his ego grows, etc.
He is an everyman character, and that's the problem. He boarders in the middle, he's a blur. Which could mean he's giving the other characters room to shine, fair enough. But throughout the show, he seems to be preaching he wants to make something to be proud of, obviously reflecting his own real life feelings. So why not be brave and create a character that has a personality, fully rounded and memorable?
I feel like there's something ive forgotten to Sky+ ... is anyone watching anything especially good right now . . . ?
Quote: Leevil @ November 8 2009, 10:10 PM GMTI understand it's part of the character progression as he "becomes one of them" and his ego grows, ect.
He is an everyman character, and that's the problem. He boarders in the middle, he's a blur. Which could mean he's giving the other characters room to shine, fair enough. But throughout the show, he seems to be preaching he wants to make something to be proud of, obviously reflecting his own real life feelings. So why not be brave and create a character that has a personality?
Have you read the scripts to the show? There's a good section in the intro about the Millman character progression, how they wanted him to be completely normal but discovered he needed to really want something so the show to work. So they came up with the idea that he really wanted his own sitcom. If anything I think Millman is a bigger character in series 2 than in series 1.
Quote: Slippery Jack @ November 8 2009, 10:12 PM GMTI feel like there's something ive forgotten to Sky+ ... is anyone watching anything especially good right now . . . ?
Yes. 'An Audience with Paul Danan' on itv 6
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 8 2009, 10:12 PM GMTHave you read the scripts to the show?
No.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 8 2009, 10:12 PM GMTThere's a good section in the intro about the Millman character progression, how they wanted him to be completely normal but discovered he needed to really want something so the show to work. So they came up with the idea that he really wanted his own sitcom. If anything I think Millman is a bigger character in series 2 than in series 1.
Yeah, I'm sure he is more developed and I understand the character. But I just don't think he's a great sitcom character.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 8 2009, 10:12 PM GMTHave you read the scripts to the show? There's a good section in the intro about the Millman character progression, how they wanted him to be completely normal but discovered he needed to really want something so the show to work. So they came up with the idea that he really wanted his own sitcom. If anything I think Millman is a bigger character in series 2 than in series 1.
Where did you find the scripts Dolly?
I'm watching death in venice
Im watching Jimmy Stewart kicking ass in Washington . . .
Quote: Scottidog @ November 8 2009, 9:38 PM GMTThe flux capacitor.
Thats what I tell customers what is wrong with their boiler when it's broken down, when I haven't a clue myself. Sadly, true.
'It's the flux capacitor, unfortunately..'
'Oh, is that expensive?'
'...dunno'
Quote: bigfella @ November 8 2009, 10:19 PM GMTI'm watching death in venice
Yes, I saw that in the TV listings and was quite excited. Then I realised it wasn't the Fellini film with Dirk Bogarde (realised after about 20 minutes).
Quote: bigfella @ November 8 2009, 10:19 PM GMTI'm watching death in venice
Is that on TV? Ace film.
Quote: Tim Walker @ November 8 2009, 10:38 PM GMT
Yes, I saw that in the TV listings and was quite excited. Then I realised it wasn't the Fellini film with Dirk Bogarde (realised after about 20 minutes).
Oh. 