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Why Britain Can't Do The Wire Page 6

Quote: Marc P @ November 5 2009, 3:19 PM GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBxtT5KbRLY&feature=related

3.30 mins in.

Who wrote that?

Quote: Marc P @ November 5 2009, 3:19 PM GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBxtT5KbRLY&feature=related

3.30 mins in.

:D

Good sketch (well very performed). Yours?

Paul Abbott

Quote: Tim Walker @ November 5 2009, 3:25 PM GMT

:D

Good sketch (well very performed). Yours?

Alright . Yes. I did a number of cracker sketches. :)

Nice one. :)

Quote: Marc P @ November 5 2009, 3:26 PM GMT

Alright . Yes. I did a number of cracker sketches. :)

Very good Laughing out loud . When did that air?

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 5 2009, 4:18 PM GMT

Very good Laughing out loud . When did that air?

Cheers. I can't remember! My first screen credits were on that show.

It's a bit like Roodeye's Gladiator reveal come to think of it.

Quote: Marc P @ November 5 2009, 4:21 PM GMT

Cheers. I can't remember! My first screen credits were on that show.

I rememeber seeing the other Blind Date ones you did. Miss Hoolie from Balamory is in that one.

You should also put up the link to your Edinburgh show. :D

I love that all threads lead to Marc P! :)

Quote: Marc P @ November 5 2009, 4:22 PM GMT

It's a bit like Roodeye's Gladiator reveal come to think of it.

I daren't read it. I'll only get called names. ;)

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 5 2009, 4:22 PM GMT

You should also put up the link to your Edinburgh show. :D

There are copyright issues. Whistling nnocently

Difficult.

The HBO model works well for all the reasons given (subscrition only - no advertisers to frighten off).
There currently isn't a market here - anyone into this sort of quality drama sorts of 'expects' it from the beeb - " I've paid me licence fee already - I'm not paying again!"
Trouble is the beeb is increasingly pressured to compete with the ITV model (aimed at the same people the advertisers want ie the non-too fussy shopper) in order to prove it's satisfying it Universal remit.
Plus they're scared of their own shadow.
So they often fail to deliver.

Ironically, if the beeb were to lose their charter - or a hefty chunk of it, it might allow an HBO type model to step in and sweep up the quality market.
If I had [a chunk of]the Licence fee put back in my pocket, I'd happily spend it on a UK-style HBO package.

In the short term it would be carnage - but in the long term...?

Quote: Marc P @ November 5 2009, 4:28 PM GMT

There are copyright issues. Whistling nnocently

The Sitcom Trials have optioned it? :O

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 5 2009, 4:32 PM GMT

The Sitcom Trials have optioned it? :O

Laughing out loud

I used a whole lot of music which I probably shouldn't have done. Whistling nnocently

Blimey, I wondered why there weren't any UK dramas to rival US hits like Lost, Heroes, FlashForward, 24, etc.

Thing is, judging by the amount of wonga all the terrestrial channels (and Sky One for that matter) spend to import such US dramas annually, you'd think they'd hit onto the idea that there IS indeed a market for it.

Quote: Mikey Jackson @ November 5 2009, 5:16 PM GMT

Blimey, I wondered why there weren't any UK dramas to rival US hits like Lost, Heroes, FlashForward, 24, etc.

I think you can only class Lost and 24 as hits from those. Heroes had a great first season, but flopped massively after that. The writing and direction on Heroes is pathetic, ratings are awful too, so it will surely be cancelled soon. FlashForward has a great concept, but again, really bad writing, the dialogue is beyond cheesy and the acting is poor; and it really wants to be Lost, unfortunately it is no where near the same quality.

Quote: Griff @ November 5 2009, 12:21 PM GMT

Or, sadly, maybe we get the TV we deserve. Why bother creating brilliant telly if all people want is Big Brother and X Factor.

That shouldn't factor (no pun intended) in to the matter though; those are light-entertainment shows, the type that have existed in some shape or form for years and years. The US have American Idol and Big Brother and Dancing With The Stars and Survivor and The Amazing Race (admittedly Survivor and The Amazing Race are well produced, more quality reality shows) and a whole bunch of trashy MTV reality shows, like Flavor Of Love. But this doesn't stop them from producing great drama as well, and not just cable shows like The Wire and The Sopranos; US network television have their fair share of quality drama too, such as Mad Men and Lost. There should be room for both on American TV and British TV.

I'd also say the US currently out-does us in comedy; with The Office, 30 Rock, Modern Family, Curb Your Enthusiasm, It's Always Sunny In Philadephia and South Park. We have Peep Show and The Thick of It and Outnumbered, brilliant sitcoms, but that is about all we have.

It's a great shame because there is the writing talent out there, and if they were given the chance to have more creative control we could compete at the same level as the US in both drama and comedy.

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