Abort! Abort!

This could stir up quite a lot of debate (so perfect for the BCG):

If you/your wife/partner were pregnant, and found that the child would have serious health problems if not stillborn - such as severe physical deformities, muscular problems, and so on and so forth - would you want to carry on through the pregnancy, or choose to have an abortion?

Personally, I wouldn't think twice before opting for the latter. I wouldn't want to put a child through all of that suffering. The constant hospital visits, the medication, the operations... I have epilepsy; not in one of the most severe forms, and controlled by medication, but that alone is enough of a bitch. I wouldn't want to put a child through what I have if I could avoid it, let alone anything more intensive.

Aaaaand .... GO!

I think I agree with you Aaron, though I'd guess it's impossible to know for sure until you're actually in that situation.

There'd probably be selfish motives behind it too, truth be told.

Personally, I'd rip the f**ker out with a rusty wire coat hanger.

It's a difficult subject. I am pro choice myself because in general, while I really don't like the idea of taking a life before it's born, I believe that a) Women should be in charge of their own bodies and b) If a woman is deperate enough to get rid of a child, they will resort to anything and that can be far worse and life threatening so it is better they are given the option so if they do decide to go down this road, at least they are far safer.

I like to think that if I suddenly found myself pregnant, unless my life was in danger, I would have the child. However I can never say the possibility wouldn't cross my mind and I would never have one because there are so many factors to allow for - some women for example get pregnant at a very young age, some have been raped, some cannot support a child at all, some have health problems they could pass down, etc.

If the child was as Aaron says, seriously ill, I would have to think very long and hard. Again I would like to think I would keep the child but I don't think ether decision is the wrong decision, they are just different paths.

I agree with Aaron.

Having said that, I think that this thread should be allowed to die naturally.

All I'll say is that you never ever know what you'd do in a circumstance until you're actually in it.

Under my reign of governmental terror, I'd make it compulsory for every girl aged 15 to be injected with a 5 year birth control thingy. That's right girls, you would not be allowed to get pregnant or have babies between the ages of 15-20.

Yeah, how you like them apples?

And what about an upper age limit?

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ November 4 2009, 3:11 PM GMT

Under my reign of governmental terror, I'd make it compulsory for every girl aged 15 to be injected with a 5 year birth control thingy. That's right girls, you would not be allowed to get pregnant or have babies between the ages of 15-20.

Yeah, how you like them apples?

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I imagine you'll be putting yourself forward as the chief injection-eer, evil post count twin?

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 4 2009, 3:12 PM GMT

And what about an upper age limit?

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Do you mean like that 60 year old woman who wanted to get pregnant? Didn't she go to Italy to get herself medically knocked up? If I can remember correctly, didn't she miscarriage?

Sorry, I'm a little vague on the details. If what I said above actually did happen, then an upper age limit might have to be introduced.

I agree you can't possibly predict how you'd cope with something till it happens. But I am about a billion percent sure that I'd want the baby to be born.
I think the child wouldn't be that unhappy, as it wouldn't have known what it was to be full mobile and so may not view their disability as negativily as someone who became disabled later on in life.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ November 4 2009, 3:18 PM GMT

Do you mean like that 60 year old woman who wanted to get pregnant? Didn't she go to Italy to get herself medically knocked up? If I can remember correctly, didn't she miscarriage?

Sorry, I'm a little vague on the details. If what I said above actually did happen, then an upper age limit might have to be introduced.

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There are women in their 60s and I think a 70 year old in India using doner eggs to have children. It's not legal in this country. Some women have naturally conceived in their early 50s I believe.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ November 4 2009, 3:11 PM GMT

Under my reign of governmental terror, I'd make it compulsory for every girl aged 15 to be injected with a 5 year birth control thingy. That's right girls, you would not be allowed to get pregnant or have babies between the ages of 15-20.

Yeah, how you like them apples?

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I must admit, I'm a fan of abolishing this bizarre "right" to reproduce.

We give potential adoptive parents hell before giving them a kid, why the hell should every other idiot in the world get the auotmatic right to shart out the little f**kers like we're not already on the brink of collapse without another grasping little turd to feed.

Every female should have their eggs surgically removed at birth, frozen, and not released for implantation until the would-be parents have achieved a certain level of financial and emotional stability and have passed at least ten GCSEs at grade C or above.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 4 2009, 3:21 PM GMT

There are women in their 60s and I think a 70 year old in India using doner eggs to have children. It's not legal in this country. Some women have naturally conceived in their early 50s I believe.

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But don't all the statistics show that having a child much later on in life is both physically detrimental to the mother and the child? Not that I'm that bothered, but there must be reason all the eggs and periods dry up at a certain age.

As for the original proposal - is it more humane to give birth to a child who will be severely handicapped and in constant pain rather then abort it?

And then in an act of total duplicitous f**k wittery, should we then allow these same children to go to Switzerland to die because they can't stand their severe handicap and the pain they're in?

Is it every woman's 'right' to have a child in the first place? Just because they can get pregnant, should they get pregnant?