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I read the news today oh boy! Page 45

Check out the industry's myriad attempts to move consumers away from ownership and toward leasing/borrowing. DRM that only works on certain devices, their opposition to making backup copies, DVDs that self-destruct after a few days, etc. They're the ones who want to move away from ownership.

Another foot washes up on B.C. shoreline
The mystery continues Aaron!

I'm not saying the "big players" have by any means come up with a fair or reasoned business model for transition to a fully digitalised market (which will of course inevitably happen). All I'm passionate about is the legal principle of ownership. However little or much money one makes from a "sale", there has to be a financial (or equivalent) benefit for the people who have created the source content. Illegal file sharers/downloaders etc are not in the right just because the record companies etc are in the wrong at this stage.

You're lucky up there Curt. Ours turn up in landfills and then some moron tries to convince everybody it's a bear foot so they don't have to investigate.

Don't know if this has been posted...

Fan Denies Sex-For-Ticket Gambit

Whatever one thinks of her actions, how is this against the law? And isn't entrapment banned in the US anymore?

It's really true what Randy said. Pennsylvania is like another world compared to New York, one state above. I'm interested to hear more of the story than what the article states.

It does sound odd that they would even bother assigning an officer to this kind of thing. Is scalping (or "touting" as we call it) even illegal over there? There surely must be more to the story if they have actually charged her with "soliciting" for sex?

As far as I know, scalping is illegal. A friend of mine got nabbed for it at a concert recently. I wonder if the police saw her ad, read into it too much, and set up the meeting. Actually, she probably did want to swap sex for tickets. People have no values here anymore.

Well, from what I've heard about Craigslist(?) it's probably a bad place to try and do anything of that nature.

Yes, there's a lot of that going around on there. There's murders linked to it, as well as a lot of prostitution.

Quote: Tim Walker @ October 29 2009, 3:11 AM BST

If I steal a car, I steal a car. There has been a long chain of people who need to be paid in order to have made that car. I'm not just stealing from the owner or dealer. Even if I feel that the owner or dealer has too much money already, would charge me too much to buy the car legally, I cannot assert the right to ownership by theft. Morally, the principle is the same for digitalised content of any type.

Defenders and users of internet piracy must by definition agree with the idea that property cannot be owned in any legal or pecuniary sense. So if someone steals their car, how can they complain without being hypocrites?

While I was living in Indonesia, a friend came back from the UK with DVDs of Brass Eye, Series 1 of Peep Show, The Office and a couple of Hancock's Half Hour - all originals that he'd bought in the UK. Rather than entrust me (an inveterate chain-smoking drunkard) with his precious DVDs, he made copies for me. I could not have bought these with a credit card online, as Indonesia is generally blacklisted from Amazon and similar sites due to its high level of carding. And such DVDs certainly weren't for sale in Indonesia. When I came to Australia two years ago, I bought the boxset of The Office, the Hancock boxset and Peep Show (Series 1-3 and subsequently the next two). But no Brass Eye (Australia seems unaware of this show). I do not feel as if my mate stole someone's car and gave it to me, inspiring me to later buy a car for myself.

Anyway, sounds like I should be on Craigslist.

Quote: Aaron @ October 29 2009, 2:26 AM BST

But were they warnings about the amount of traffic you were using, or about the content you were accessing? I'm guessing the former.

Nope, I've never heard a peep about my bandwidth usage. They were both because of torrent downloads, though the second time was because someone picked up my wireless signal which wasn't password protected (first time I'd had a wireless router and I didn't know how it worked).

Quote: Curt @ October 29 2009, 3:43 AM BST

Another foot washes up on B.C. shoreline
The mystery continues Aaron!

Ooooooo!

Quote: Tim Walker @ October 29 2009, 3:46 AM BST

I'm not saying the "big players" have by any means come up with a fair or reasoned business model for transition to a fully digitalised market (which will of course inevitably happen). All I'm passionate about is the legal principle of ownership. However little or much money one makes from a "sale", there has to be a financial (or equivalent) benefit for the people who have created the source content. Illegal file sharers/downloaders etc are not in the right just because the record companies etc are in the wrong at this stage.

Well, I agree that it's illegal and immoral and that.

Quote: Moonstone @ October 29 2009, 2:13 PM BST

Nope, I've never heard a peep about my bandwidth usage. They were both because of torrent downloads, though the second time was because someone picked up my wireless signal which wasn't password protected (first time I'd had a wireless router and I didn't know how it worked).

What ISP(s) were these with? Did it mention any specific downloads, or just that they suspected you of torrenting?

Quote: Aaron @ October 29 2009, 2:31 PM BST

Well, I agree that it's illegal and immoral and that.

Though I am not claiming to have been whiter-than-white myself in the past, of course. A few years ago it seemed even to me to be less of a big deal, because the internet was not such the major force of distribution of media it is now.

I also agree with the point that people are listening to and watching stuff they never would have even bothered with if it was strictly a "buy up front" culture. I just think that there should be plenty of good free/trial content available alongside paid content, in order to make the arguments about overpricing less compelling. Frankly (though of varying quality) there is a whole internet of free entertainment out there already. It's not as though those who can't/won't pay are not provided for.

I have just paid one hundred pounds for Office for Mac!

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