Quote: Nogget @ October 24 2009, 5:27 PM BSTThere are still plenty of concerns with that though, like the (possible) link to Osteoporosis.
Isn't the biggest link to that a lack of calcium and impact sport in the developing years?
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Quote: Dolly Dagger @ October 24 2009, 5:30 PM BSTIsn't the biggest link to that a lack of calcium and impact sport in the developing years?
Apparently the milk might cause a leaching of calcium from the bones. Taking in calcium alone is (IIRC) not enough to help, you need magnesium too.
But I'm no expert, I'm struggling with information from various sources, the reliability of which are unknown to me.
Quote: Curt @ October 24 2009, 2:57 PM BSTGood for you bud. Be sure to flex when you walk, and talk to yourself about how awesome your hair looks today, chicks dig that, Ruby told me so herself.
It makes us feel less guilty about running you down.
Quote: Nogget @ October 24 2009, 2:55 PM BSTWell a mate told me he'd read that it was only the fishy omega3's which were any good, but he couldn't cite his source, so I can't be sure what he's on about. I know that there are two different kinds of omega3, and that they 'do' different things, but for my purposes, which is to get the balance of omage3 to omega6 right, I thought the plant-sources were OK...until I learn otherwise.
Short-chain plant omega 3 has to be converted to long-chain animal omega 3 in the body, so you need to consume much more to absorb the same amount. Though on the other hand you won't be contributing to the unsustainable over-exploitation of fish stocks.
Most westerners can probably get all the omega 3 (and everything else) they need from eating a balanced diet; there is little solid evidence to support the claims of the multi-billion £ food supplement industry.
Quote: Leevil @ October 24 2009, 5:25 PM BSTI can't drink a glass of dairy milk now, it will make me gag, like you said, tastes like it's been inside an animal, and doing that once a day is enough for me.
Only the once?
Some very bizarre rumours and near-on scare-mongering going on in this thread. If all of the accusations and assertions are to be believed, we should eat both nothing and everything.
My thoughts: eat or drink whatever the f**k you want. Just don't do anything to excess. A balance of different things should do anyone nicely.
Quote: Timbo @ October 24 2009, 6:15 PM BSTMost westerners can probably get all the omega 3 (and everything else) they need from eating a balanced diet; there is little solid evidence to support the claims of the multi-billion £ food supplement industry.
Yes, you don't need supplements, but most westerners don't have a balanced diet.
"Research scientists recommend ratios varying from 5:1 to 10:1 omega-6 to omega-3. Some experts suggest a ratio of between 1:1 and 4:1 as being optimal. What are we getting? The current ratio in our diet is estimated to be 14:1 to 20:1.
It is this imbalance that helps promote so much heart disease today. "
Quote: Nogget @ October 24 2009, 5:37 PM BSTBut I'm no expert, I'm struggling with information from various sources, the reliability of which are unknown to me.
Thirty years of intensive medical research have failed to demonstrate any conclusive links between diet and health, beyond the bleeding obvious. Eat a sensible balanced diet, and stop obsessing about your health and what you eat. You will feel better and live longer.
A mate of mine, who has been cutting this or that out of his diet for years, was recently diagnosed as suffering from "health anxiety disorder". That is hypochondria to you and me, but since being diagnosed with a medical disorder he seems much happier, and is able to eat what he fancies.
Quote: Aaron @ October 24 2009, 6:25 PM BSTOnly the once?
Some very bizarre rumours and near-on scare-mongering going on in this thread.
Such as?
Quote: Aaron @ October 24 2009, 6:25 PM BSTOnly the once?
Some very bizarre rumours and near-on scare-mongering going on in this thread. If all of the accusations and assertions are to be believed, we should eat both nothing and everything.
My thoughts: eat or drink whatever the f**k you want. Just don't do anything to excess. A balance of different things should do anyone nicely.
So true. Except STAY AWAY FROM EATING ALL THOSE CRAYONS THERE AARON. 
Quote: Timbo @ October 24 2009, 6:39 PM BSTA mate of mine, who has been cutting this or that out of his diet for years, was recently diagnosed as suffering from "health anxiety disorder". That is hypochondria to you and me, but since being diagnosed with a medical disorder he seems much happier, and is able to eat what he fancies.
I think it's possible to be aware of what might be healthiest to eat, without being unhealthily obsessed by it.
Quote: Nogget @ October 24 2009, 6:40 PM BSTSuch as?
Most of your posts.
Quote: Aaron @ October 24 2009, 6:25 PM BSTOnly the once?
Some very bizarre rumours and near-on scare-mongering going on in this thread. If all of the accusations and assertions are to be believed, we should eat both nothing and everything.
My thoughts: eat or drink whatever the f**k you want. Just don't do anything to excess. A balance of different things should do anyone nicely.
Exactly. The diet industry makes about £80 million a year selling crazy ideas and miracles in a jar or a bar. They don't actually want you to suceed because there goes the money! As a former tubby, I know how dangerous it is to believe the hype and it was only when I STOPPED dieting I finally lost it and kept it off.
I did a piece on weight loss on my site BTW! You will need to scroll down a fair bit. I also have links at the end of the piece.
Quote: Aaron @ October 24 2009, 6:25 PM BSTSome very bizarre rumours and near-on scare-mongering going on in this thread. If all of the accusations and assertions are to be believed, we should eat both nothing and everything.
My thoughts: eat or drink whatever the f**k you want. Just don't do anything to excess. A balance of different things should do anyone nicely.
Totally spot on. Just about everything these days is linked to some form of cancer or 'may' lead to the failure of some organ.
Quote: Aaron @ October 24 2009, 6:50 PM BSTMost of your posts.
I've made it clear that everything I've written is disputable, I'm fully aware that the truth is uncertain.
Quote: Nogget @ October 24 2009, 6:39 PM BSTYes, you don't need supplements, but most westerners don't have a balanced diet.
There is no reason why they shouldn't, unless they choose not to.
"Research scientists recommend ratios varying from 5:1 to 10:1 omega-6 to omega-3. Some experts suggest a ratio of between 1:1 and 4:1 as being optimal. What are we getting? The current ratio in our diet is estimated to be 14:1 to 20:1.
It is this imbalance that helps promote so much heart disease today. "
That looks to me like a website set up as a front to flog Omega 3 supplements. The clue is in all the links to to the site where you can purchase them (eight on that page alone, not counting Google ads) coupled with the warning against buying inferior products.
The food supplement industry has a long established track record of sponsoring intrinsically flawed trials, ignoring unfavourable research and extrapolating conclusions beyond what the evidence will support. The phrase "some experts" does not inspire confidence, not in a field where Gillian McKeith, (possessor of a correspondence course PhD from a non-accredited college with a sideline in selling vitamin pills) can claim to be an "expert".