We're spending millions locking up families in detention centres.
Families who historically don't run but wait politely for the knock on the door.
Immigration in this country is amazingly a disfunctional disgrace on every level.
Nick Griffin on Question Time Page 28
This has probably already been said, but Griffin really ruined any chance of being taken seriously, when he made his comments about gay men. He sounded like a schoolboy, saying he thinks they're "creepy".
It was probably welcomed by the sorts of people who were thinking about voting for him anyway.
What I'd like to know is if he wishes to rid the UK of the non-indigenous residents what does he intend to do when the indigenous people of the Americas decided to do the same? What do we do when 200,000,000 whites Americans head back in our direction. Or does he and the KKK have a different definition of indigenous when it comes to the USA?
Yes that it is a very good point, KJ - just how far do we take this 'indigenous race' concept. Still, there is a difference here, USA, Britain and many other nations have been conquered by aggresive invading forces, who then chose to settle. The indigenous populations could evidently not stop it happening and obviously not stop the inter racial breeding which happened afterwards. And we cannot turn back the clock.
Now what we have is a different type of 'invasion', if you will, are far more subtle type, but still one where notably different races are coming to settle in rapidly increasing numbers. The biggest difference here, as the BNP and other crtics see it, is that we - OUR GOVT is inviting them here!!! THAT is the crucial difference and why so many Brits are quietly enraged and/or worried now.
Quote: catskillz @ October 23 2009, 9:00 PM BSTThis has probably already been said, but Griffin really ruined any chance of being taken seriously, when he made his comments about gay men. He sounded like a schoolboy, saying he thinks they're "creepy".
He said he found the idea of watching two grown men kissing in public creepy. I.e. it made him feel uncomfortable, quite a different thing. He may well find gay men creepy but he didn't say it.
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ October 24 2009, 9:38 AM BSTYes that it is a very good point, KJ - just how far do we take this 'indigenous race' concept. Still, there is a difference here, USA, Britain and many other nations have been conquered by aggresive invading forces, who then chose to settle. The indigenous populations could evidently not stop it happening and obviously not stop the inter racial breeding which happened afterwards. And we cannot turn back the clock.
Did you see what Timbo noted about recent DNA research a few pages back? If not; apparently, despite all of those invasions and movements of people, no real effect was made upon the genetic makeup of the UK, and we're more or less the same as we were some hundred/thousand years ago.
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ October 24 2009, 9:38 AM BSTNow what we have is a different type of 'invasion', if you will, are far more subtle type, but still one where notably different races are coming to settle in rapidly increasing numbers. The biggest difference here, as the BNP and other crtics see it, is that we - OUR GOVT is inviting them here!!! THAT is the crucial difference and why so many Brits are quietly enraged and/or worried now.
And without any proper provision for them, at a time when the country is already at maximum capacity, as far as resources go.
Quote: Marc P @ October 24 2009, 10:01 AM BSTHe said he found the idea of watching two grown men kissing in public creepy. I.e. it made him feel uncomfortable, quite a different thing. He may well find gay men creepy but he didn't say it.
I find any public display of affection creepy. *shudder*
Quote: Aaron @ October 24 2009, 12:33 PM BST
I find any public display of affection creepy. *shudder*
I'm one for hugging and kissing anywhere. I'm waiting for my daughter to get embarrassed of me kissing her goodbye in the school playground.
I think the issue arises when public affection starts to shade into foreplay.
Quote: Timbo @ October 24 2009, 12:55 PM BSTI think the issue arises when public affection starts to shade into foreplay.
What about arse grabbing? 
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ October 24 2009, 1:07 PM BSTWhat about arse grabbing?
Only acceptable if it is a complete stranger and you are Italian.
Some of those audience members were so filled with hatred, they don't seem to understand that hating Nick Griffin because of his beliefs, is still hate!
What's worse is that Griffin thinks he's right but those that oppose him know better, yet still get dragged down to his level by being openly hostile and bordering on violent.
There needs to be greater tolerance from all sides.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8323638.stm
Astonishing that Hain remains unable to grasp that any surge in BNP support is the result not of giving them a platform but of the attempt to shout them down. Once you try to stop someone from talking people are going to assume it is because they have something to say to which you have no answer. Hain is the best recruiting officer the BNP possess.
The general consensus appears to be that Nick Griffin and his party should all be taken out and burned alive - and that people who question the justice of their being burned alive should themselves be burned alive.
I believe therefore that Mr G has many more supporters than he imagines and that there may be BIG shocks in store, come polling day.
Quote: Timbo @ October 24 2009, 4:28 PM BSThttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8323638.stm
Astonishing that Hain remains unable to grasp that any surge in BNP support is the result not of giving them a platform but of the attempt to shout them down. Once you try to stop someone from talking people are going to assume it is because they have something to say to which you have no answer. Hain is the best recruiting officer the BNP possess.
Hain is a dellusional bell end of the highest order. I do so wish he'd f**k back off to where he came from.