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Quote: Dolly Dagger @ October 20 2009, 1:22 PM BST

The problem is it's very difficult to have a secular funeral.

Hmm, well there's a gap in the market for an astute business person then. Buy a plot of land and a kareoke machine and you're away!

Quote: Moonstone @ October 20 2009, 2:15 PM BST

Hmm, well there's a gap in the market for an astute business person then. Buy a plot of land and a kareoke machine and you're away!

Good idea. It's becoming more common, but most people don't think there's an alternative to the religious ceremonies.

The last funeral I went to consisted of pop music, readings, tributes and poems written by friends and family. There was no officiator and nothing religious about it.

Quote: Loopey @ October 20 2009, 2:33 PM BST

The last funeral I went to consisted of pop music, readings, tributes and poems written by friends and family. There was no officiator and nothing religious about it.

I went to a memorial service like that (with a jazz band).

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ October 20 2009, 2:24 PM BST

Good idea. It's becoming more common, but most people don't think there's an alternative to the religious ceremonies.

I bet there'd still be a hell of a lot of people who'd want the ceremony in a church though. Nobody 'has' to be baptised, but people are still doing it, if only for the sake of tradition. And it does seem that registry office weddings are often more a matter of saving money than not being hypocritical.Countless times I've heard "I wanted to get married in a church but we couldn't afford it" from people who call themselves atheists.

Quote: Moonstone @ October 20 2009, 2:36 PM BST

I bet there'd still be a hell of a lot of people who'd want the ceremony in a church though. Nobody 'has' to be baptised, but people are still doing it, if only for the sake of tradition. And it does seem that registry office weddings are often more a matter of saving money than not being hypocritical.Countless times I've heard "I wanted to get married in a church but we couldn't afford it" from people who call themselves atheists.

A church wedding is no more expensive (well you pay the church a bit, but not a lot).

Hmm, well I've heard people say that. Strange then!

Quote: Moonstone @ October 20 2009, 2:48 PM BST

Hmm, well I've heard people say that. Strange then!

It can be if you want a choir and flowers and stuff, but it's not necessary. Maybe they want to invite as many people, so think a registry office is more low key?

Personally I don't know what people spend so much money on with weddings (or why). I'd rather have a cheap dress and give people free booze, than wear something costing a few grand, invite 100s of guests then expect them to buy their own drinks.

Possybilly. How much do you pay a church?

Quote: Moonstone @ October 20 2009, 2:52 PM BST

Possybilly. How much do you pay a church?

I don't know now, but 18 years ago (when I got married) it was about £80. Maybe picturesque churches charge more.

Oh right. Well that really is peanuts. I dunno then.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ October 20 2009, 2:53 PM BST

I don't know now, but 18 years ago (when I got married) it was about £80. Maybe picturesque churches charge more.

Well £80 back then is about £1.3 million pounds in todays money so rather a lot!

What's happened to Ruby? :S

Quote: Moonstone @ October 20 2009, 5:07 PM BST

What's happened to Ruby? :S

Yes, I was wondering too. I haven't been on much in the past week. :(

Ruby's probably eating some glitter somewhere.

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