Quote: Leevil @ October 11 2009, 2:05 PM BSTSee, that's where I went wrong, I got her some Corgis instead.
some toy cars? coool.
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I wouldn't 'online date'. I'd rather the other person had met me in the flesh before we dated. They could be terribly disappointed otherwise...
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ October 11 2009, 1:59 PM BSTHere's the funny thing, even though a woman rarely gets down on one knee and proposes, they do all of the ground work to ensure that it does happen. Very few women are properly shocked when they get proposed to.
So does that make it a good thing or bad thing when the woman does it?
Quote: Ben @ October 11 2009, 2:09 PM BSTI wouldn't 'online date'. I'd rather the other person had met me in the flesh before we dated. They could be terribly disappointed otherwise...
Gawd yeah, imagine if you saw that disppointment on someone's face when they met you, that would just be horrible.
Quote: dannyjb1 @ October 11 2009, 2:09 PM BSTsome toy cars? coool.
When I said I was getting you some Matchboxes to play with, I didn't mean the cars 
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ October 11 2009, 2:10 PM BSTSo does that make it a good thing or bad thing when the woman does it?
It makes it a bit artificial especially as the romantic aspect is supposedly derived around a spontaneous display of emotion and a decree of ever lasting love.
The biggest problem with women pressuring men for marriage and babies, is that a few years down the line, they break up and lives are ruined. Most women (not all) are social conformists - if all of their friends are married and have babies, then they want to fit in with the group. It dosen't help that the rest of the group puts pressure on the woman to conform.
The number of women who say 'My God, I'm nearly X years of age and I'm not married and don't have a baby' is considerable.
Of course, men have no feelings are totally marginalised in these situations.
I think a good sitcom would feature Dolly and Renegade living in the same house. Perhaps looking after an errant teenage boy.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ October 11 2009, 2:19 PM BSTIt makes it a bit artificial especially as the romantic aspect is supposedly derived around a spontaneous display of emotion and a decree of ever lasting love.
I meant when they actually propose instead of the bloke. 
No, is it a good thing if the woman proposes, Renegade. I think Dolly meant.
Quote: Ben @ October 11 2009, 2:20 PM BSTI think a good sitcom would feature Dolly and Renegade living in the same house. Perhaps looking after an errant teenage boy.
You wanna play the 'boy'?
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ October 11 2009, 2:21 PM BSTI meant when they actually propose instead of the bloke.
Ahem. Sorry. I'll stay out of it. 
Quote: zooo @ October 11 2009, 2:21 PM BSTNo, is it a good thing if the woman proposes, Renegade. I think Dolly meant.
Yep, that one.
Did you do the proposing with Mr Dagger, Dolly?
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ October 11 2009, 2:19 PM BSTIt makes it a bit artificial especially as the romantic aspect is supposedly derived around a spontaneous display of emotion and a decree of ever lasting love.
The biggest problem with women pressuring men for marriage and babies, is that a few years down the line, they break up and lives are ruined. Most women (not all) are social conformists - if all of their friends are married and have babies, then they want to fit in with the group. It dosen't help that the rest of the group puts pressure on the woman to conform.
The number of women who say 'My God, I'm nearly X years of age and I'm not married and don't have a baby' is considerable.
Of course, men have no feelings are totally marginalised in these situations.
Not to just be deliberately contrary (honest!), in my experience of my friends' relationships, it's been the male who was all keen to get married and commit and settle down. Not the female.
But maybe the generations are different. Dunno.
Quote: Ben @ October 11 2009, 2:24 PM BSTDid you do the proposing with Mr Dagger, Dolly?
Yes. 
Lots of people think that's a bit sad.
Quote: zooo @ October 11 2009, 2:24 PM BSTit's been the male who was all keen to get married and commit and settle down. Not the female.
You're sure these are men you're talking about? They have a penis and everything?