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Quote: Tim Walker @ October 8 2009, 1:32 AM BST

(Oh and they were all doctors. F**king marvellous! :( )

I don't know how it played out in Oz, but if that happened in the States it could potentially be a career ender.

Quote: Tim Walker @ October 8 2009, 1:32 AM BST

:O :O :O

(Oh and they were all doctors. F**king marvellous! :( )

Weird, isn't it? It seems to be a fairly recent TV rip too.

Quote: DaButt @ October 8 2009, 1:34 AM BST

I don't know how it played out in Oz, but if that happened in the States it could potentially be a career ender.

Potentially? Definitely.

That's surely why Harry got his apology in before it even aired.

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 8 2009, 1:34 AM BST

Weird, isn't it? It seems to be a fairly recent TV rip too.

The madness is that they showed the same pricks doing the same routine on the show 20 years previously (when they were med students). This makes BBC producers and editors look like far-sighted geniuses.

It does look fairly recent (by Aussie TV standards). Amazing that they got onto air. And fair play for Harry for making a point. (And some of the audience for booing.) On what level could this not have been considered racist and offensive?

Quote: Tim Walker @ October 8 2009, 1:36 AM BST

It does look fairly recent (by Aussie TV standards).

It was this week:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2009/oct/07/harry-connick-jr-blackface-jackson-jive

Yet some people get nominated for an Oscar for performing in blackface:

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Quote: DaButt @ October 8 2009, 1:40 AM BST

Yet some people get nominated for an Oscar for performing in blackface:

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Well, there's white guys playing black guys, then there's "blackface".

I've seen plenty of white actors play Othello without it striking me as offensive.

I think we can appreciate the difference, surely? ;)

The clips above is not only parodying black people, it does so without any artistic merit other than to have a laugh at black people. At least that's the way I see it.

Going back to the original point, one of the issues raised by all of this (or so I read today in The Times) is that the BBC is proposes bleeping or editing shows which first appear on BBC2/3/4 if they get re-shown on BBC1 (even in the same timeslots). This is on the basis that BBC1 has a different image to maintain. Not so sure about the "editing" bits, especially when it comes to sitcom or comedy-drama.

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 8 2009, 1:20 AM BST

Well, at least we're not as bad as Aussie telly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMAyGewq37w

Heh! That was the first time I had seen blackface on TV since Little Britain. The irony is that the doctor (all of the Jackson Jive performers are doctors) impersonating Michael Jackson had whitened his face because he's originally from India. Another of the performers was also from India and another from Lebanon.

Quote: Kenneth @ October 8 2009, 1:44 AM BST

the doctor (all of the Jackson Jive performers are doctors) impersonating Michael Jackson had whitened his face because he's originally from India. Another of the performers was also from India and another from Lebanon.

I'm not sure of my racial mathematics - does that make them double racists, or do they cancel each other out?

Quote: Kenneth @ October 8 2009, 1:44 AM BST

Heh! That was the first time I had seen blackface on TV since Little Britain. The irony is that the doctor (all of the Jackson Jive performers are doctors) impersonating Michael Jackson had whitened his face because he's originally from India. Another of the performers was also from India and another from Lebanon.

Doesn't really matter who was performing it though, all the act consisted of was an attempt to get laughs out of black African-Americans. There was nothing more to it. It doesn't matter whether this came from a racist place or not (I'm pretty certain it didn't), it doesn't make it acceptable.

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 8 2009, 1:35 AM BST

Potentially? Definitely.

That's surely why Harry got his apology in before it even aired.

The show in question is called Hey Hey It's Saturday (somewhat like Noel's House Party). It ran for many years, from 1971 to 1999. Last week and this week it did a couple of reunion shows. It is a 'live' show, so Harry Connick Jr did not get his apology before it aired. The apology was made on-air after the blackface act.

Quote: Tim Walker @ October 8 2009, 1:43 AM BST

Going back to the original point, one of the issues raised by all of this (or so I read today in The Times) is that the BBC is proposes bleeping or editing shows which first appear on BBC2/3/4 if they get re-shown on BBC1 (even in the same timeslots). This is on the basis that BBC1 has a different image to maintain. Not so sure about the "editing" bits, especially when it comes to sitcom or comedy-drama.

It sounds like a waste of time to me.

My views on swearing are pretty straightforward.

It's possible to disagree with the use of swearwords, used for comedic effect, if they're lazily used, but if you're genuinely "offended" by swearing on a blanket basis, you're a FUCKing idiot. And a CUNT.

And I'm using CAPS to get around the BCG's CUNTishly FUCKing useless filters.

Has it caused a major stir in Oz, Kenneth?

Quote: Tim Walker @ October 8 2009, 1:47 AM BST

It doesn't matter whether this came from a racist place or not (I'm pretty certain it didn't)

These are highly educated men in the 21st century. Some of them are even minorities themselves, so I can't believe they didn't understand that their act reeked of racism. Perhaps they assumed that it was funny enough to carry on anyway, but I can't believe they were dumbfounded by the response.

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