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Swearing And Intimidation On Television

BBC Gets Tough On Swearing And Intimidation

Following the mess that the BBC got itself into over failures in editorial policy (most notably the Andrew Sachs/Ross/Brand affair), the subject of excessive bad language and bad behaviour (on both pre- and post-watershed TV) has reared its head again.

Personally I think the swearing pendulum has swung too far in some areas of TV output, but I think this has mainly been in chat shows and reality shows (Ramsey and BB being obvious culprits). To be fair though, some TV comedy panel shows can be almost as guilty.

TV comedy is always going to have sweary programmes, but I fear it's an area that will be hit disproportionately if the crackdown goes ahead. I don't think that swearing = laughs by any means, but I fear that editorial decisions made on the grounds of "taste and decency" could affect what comedy makes it to screen. Not just the actual words themselves, but the tone and plots of shows.

My opinion is that (as when I was a kid) parents should regulate what their kids watch more closely and decide what is appropriate. I can see technologies such as the BBC iPlayer make this more difficult however.

Any thoughts? :)

I do have this to say. Sometimes bleeping out a swear is funnier than actually hearing the swear.

Oh, f**k off Walker.

Quote: Curt @ October 8 2009, 12:30 AM BST

I do have this to say. Sometimes bleeping out a swear is funnier than actually hearing the swear.

Of which Mr Lineham has always made great use of.

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 8 2009, 12:31 AM BST

Oh, f**k off Walker.

Laughing out loud ;)

Quote: Tim Walker @ October 8 2009, 12:32 AM BST

Of which Mr Lineham has always made great use of.

Damn right. But when he does use un-bleeped F-words, it's usually brilliant.

Eg, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjS-eNS8dkk

'This video is not available in your motherf**king country due to copyright restrictions'.

Quote: Tim Walker @ October 8 2009, 12:35 AM BST

'This video is not available in your motherf**king country due to copyright restrictions'.

Really? What country are you in?

It's Matt Berry telling a bunch of religious folk to f**k off in The IT Crowd. Best TV f**k in years.

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 8 2009, 12:36 AM BST

Really? What country are you in?

This one. :)

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 8 2009, 12:34 AM BST

Damn right. But when he does use un-bleeped F-words, it's usually brilliant.

Eg, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjS-eNS8dkk

That has to be one of the best placed "f**k offs" in television history.

According to the Trust's latest review of Editorial Guidelines at the BBC, any shows using the three strongest swear words - f**k, motherf**ker and c**t - will have to get approval from an output controller after justifying the editorial validity.

Gratuitous swearing (and cooking) à la Gordon Ramsey is boring. South Park bleeps its swearing (and used to maintain the bleeps in the DVDs). Watching Season 8 of Family Guy on DVD recently, the frequency of swearing almost started to reduce its shock/humour effect. Whereas swearing is integral to Derek and Clive, though their movie probably doesn't get screened much on TV. Peep Show and other adult-oriented comedies should not have to justify/seek approval for swearing.

Quote: Kenneth @ October 8 2009, 12:54 AM BST

South Park bleeps its swearing (and used to maintain the bleeps in the DVDs).

But the episode where they said "shit" a couple hundred times, with an on-screen counter, was a classic use of unbleeped swearing. Possibly quintessentially so.

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 8 2009, 12:58 AM BST

But the episode where they said "shit" a couple hundred times, with an on-screen counter, was a classic use of unbleeped swearing. Possibly quintessentially so.

* 162 times. Yes, it was the exception and a comment on gratuitous swearing on TV. And the BBC is looking at getting tougher on the use of c**t, f**k and motherf**ker - not shit - according to the article Tim posted the link to. And no mention of nigger or Paki, which are perhaps classified as taboo racial epithets and therefore different from mainstream swearwords.

Quote: Kenneth @ October 8 2009, 1:03 AM BST

And no mention of nigger or Paki, which are perhaps classified as taboo racial epithets and therefore different from mainstream swearwords.

Well, at least we're not as bad as Aussie telly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMAyGewq37w

Quote: Kenneth @ October 8 2009, 12:54 AM BST

Gratuitous swearing (and cooking) à la Gordon Ramsey is boring. South Park bleeps its swearing (and used to maintain the bleeps in the DVDs). Watching Season 8 of Family Guy on DVD recently, the frequency of swearing almost started to reduce its shock/humour effect. Whereas swearing is integral to Derek and Clive, though their movie probably doesn't get screened much on TV. Peep Show and other adult-oriented comedies should not have to justify/seek approval for swearing.

South Park is one show I'm glad finally dumped its bleeps. It swears so much that at some times sounds like a moving truck is backing up in my living room.

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 8 2009, 1:20 AM BST

Well, at least we're not as bad as Aussie telly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMAyGewq37w

:O :O :O

(Oh and they were all doctors. F**king marvellous! :( )

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