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So is Labour really washed out?

Having read the Sun's obituary on New Lab one has to wander is it really all over? Has the great Blair Brown experiment gone up like Frankenstein's creation? And did it actually do any good before it's soon to be torrid ending.

Sootyj suggests the following succes's

1 Tax credits. Yeh the computer broke and some people got threatening letters and some got nothing. But a genuinely original attempt to help end poverty without making people sign on for humiliating benefits, has helped alot of people keep their jobs in the recession.

2 Kosovo, Sierra Leone and initial invasion of Afghanistan. Actually took the lead from the US in fighting opression and much better than UN lead debacles of the 80s and 90s.

3 Minimun wage. About bloody time!

4 New deals for disabled people. Has radically improved the quality of lives and in Thatcheirte terms given individuals real choice in the care they recieve. And saved money. Similar stuff for families.

5 Infrastrucutre investment. More hospitals, schools and similar things. Plus renegotiated with teaching and nursing unions to keep them staffed for decades.

6 Handling the crunch. Unfair to say they are soulely to blame for getting us into it, but have done much to get us out of it.

7 Less NHS queues and far more 24 hour modern accessible services.

I'm sure others will gleefully point out their faults.

Stealth taxes! A one billion percent increase in stealth taxes. From VAT to Stamp Duty to Road Tax - the Labour Government became a greedy cash sucking pig who viewed the electorate as walking cash machines.

They fell over massively with immigration, public-private partnerships and sent out troops into battle with poor equipment.

They sat in their plush offices watching coffins being flown back to the UK and continued to lie about our Armed Forces not being underfunded.

Plus that f**king bitch introduced the smoking ban in pubs, what a f**king bitch. I hope she gets cancer and dies in an ironic way. F**king bitch.

Other then that, they weren't any worse or any better then any of the other idiots who get in.

Thatcher caused the Falklands war by scrapping all the big royal navy carriers.

The Argies tried similar shenanigans in the 70s but backed down at the sight of them.

And Thatcher's taxes weren't stealthy just stupid.

Yeah sooty, you asked about the Labour Government, this one, that's in power now.

I couldn't give a shit what Thatcher did twenty years ago. All I'm concerned about is that this current Government has taken away all of my rights and should therefore f**k off.

It has shafted its own grassroots people, which is pure treachery. It has brown nosed with big industries so much that they helped cause and definitely speeded up the crash in GB. It has failed to stop banking bosses taking obscene leaving salaries after breaking our economy, it failed to stop greedy businessmen destroy our last big motor manufacturer and pocket the cash. It has overseen the widenining of the gap between rich and poor, the first time this has ever happened under a 'Labour' Govnt., it has caused a severe housing shortage with its insane immigration policies, it has been partly responsible for terrorist atrocities on civilians for its ill conceived war, it has been a poodle to the European Union, who seek to destroy us, it has reneged on promises such as the referendum on the Maastricht/Lisbon treaties, it has crippled us in insane politically correct laws that not even the minorities it aims to protect agree with, it has seen crime levels rise, and moral standards decline, all this and much much more is New Labour's legacy to Great Britain. They are treacherous SCUM!

Quote: sootyj @ October 2 2009, 4:03 PM BST

6 Handling the crunch. Unfair to say they are soulely to blame for getting us into it, but have done much to get us out of it.

But Mr Brown was an outspoken critic of the countries which didn't deregulate their banking. He's not solely to blame, but he's one of the ring-leaders.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ October 2 2009, 4:53 PM BST

Stealth taxes! A one billion percent increase in stealth taxes. From VAT to Stamp Duty to Road Tax - the Labour Government became a greedy cash sucking pig who viewed the electorate as walking cash machines.

Hardly a defining feature of 'New' Labour, that.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ October 2 2009, 4:53 PM BST

They fell over massively with immigration, public-private partnerships and sent out troops into battle with poor equipment.

They sat in their plush offices watching coffins being flown back to the UK and continued to lie about our Armed Forces not being underfunded.

Quite.

Quote: Nogget @ October 2 2009, 5:45 PM BST

But Mr Brown was an outspoken critic of the countries which didn't deregulate their banking. He's not solely to blame, but he's one of the ring-leaders.

And a hypocrite of absolutely epic proportions. It's probably true that personal debt would still have been overwhelming, but it's directly his fault that we - as a country - are in the shitter. His ludicrous, un-funded spending for 12 years. His selling off of gold reserves at miniscule prices. His lack of any economic ability. I was just 10 when they came to power, and even then I could see what a smokescreen his economic "success" was. I wish I'd been wrong and it hadn't been just a smokescreen. The leaves covering the massive pit to trap a bear in the woods. Bastard.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ October 2 2009, 5:38 PM BST

It has shafted its own grassroots people, which is pure treachery. It has brown nosed with big industries so much that they helped cause and definitely speeded up the crash in GB. It has failed to stop banking bosses taking obscene leaving salaries after breaking our economy, it failed to stop greedy businessmen destroy our last big motor manufacturer and pocket the cash. It has overseen the widenining of the gap between rich and poor, the first time this has ever happened under a 'Labour' Govnt., it has caused a severe housing shortage with its insane immigration policies, it has been partly responsible for terrorist atrocities on civilians for its ill conceived war, it has been a poodle to the European Union, who seek to destroy us, it has reneged on promises such as the referendum on the Maastricht/Lisbon treaties, it has crippled us in insane politically correct laws that not even the minorities it aims to protect agree with, it has seen crime levels rise, and moral standards decline, all this and much much more is New Labour's legacy to Great Britain. They are treacherous SCUM!

Largely agree.

Quote: sootyj @ October 2 2009, 4:03 PM BST

5 Infrastrucutre investment. More hospitals, schools and similar things. Plus renegotiated with teaching and nursing unions to keep them staffed for decades.

7 Less NHS queues and far more 24 hour modern accessible services.

Both of these would have taken place no matter who was in power.

Although their "negotiations" with the unions are hardly anything to shout about. Unless you're a Conservative on the campaign trail. :)

Good things. Um. Banning smoking. Can't say I was too disappointed with banning adverts for smoking. Nothing else is springing to mind.

Labour: washed out.

They spent 10 years destroying the identity our beloved Country.

F**k them, and f**k off.

Quote: sootyj @ October 2 2009, 4:03 PM BST

Having read the Sun's obituary on New Lab one has to wander is it really all over? Has the great Blair Brown experiment gone up like Frankenstein's creation? And did it actually do any good before it's soon to be torrid ending.

Sootyj suggests the following succes's

1 Tax credits. Yeh the computer broke and some people got threatening letters and some got nothing. But a genuinely original attempt to help end poverty without making people sign on for humiliating benefits, has helped alot of people keep their jobs in the recession.

2 Kosovo, Sierra Leone and initial invasion of Afghanistan. Actually took the lead from the US in fighting opression and much better than UN lead debacles of the 80s and 90s.

3 Minimun wage. About bloody time!

4 New deals for disabled people. Has radically improved the quality of lives and in Thatcheirte terms given individuals real choice in the care they recieve. And saved money. Similar stuff for families.

5 Infrastrucutre investment. More hospitals, schools and similar things. Plus renegotiated with teaching and nursing unions to keep them staffed for decades.

6 Handling the crunch. Unfair to say they are soulely to blame for getting us into it, but have done much to get us out of it.

7 Less NHS queues and far more 24 hour modern accessible services.

I'm sure others will gleefully point out their faults.

All good points. If people think the Tories can do any better they are woefully mistaken.

End.

Quote: Nil Putters @ October 2 2009, 6:11 PM BST

All good points. If people think the Tories can do any better they are woefully mistaken.

End.

Agreed. All useless corrupt snooty space monkeys. MPs that is not just the Tories.

Quote: Nil Putters @ October 2 2009, 6:11 PM BST

All good points. If people think the Tories can do any better they are woefully mistaken.

End.

Yep. No matter the governing party, they'll do good stuff, bad stuff, and f**ked up stuff. More or less it equals out.

Quote: Nil Putters @ October 2 2009, 6:11 PM BST

All good points. If people think the Tories can do any better they are woefully mistaken.

End.

Yep. They're all exactly the same with exactly the same feckin agenda. Democracy my arse. Illusion of, maybe.

Quote: Moonstone @ October 2 2009, 6:21 PM BST

Democracy my arse.

Especially ... *points to Ireland*

Quote: Aaron @ October 2 2009, 6:24 PM BST

Especially ... *points to Ireland*

Why what are they bombing now?

Quote: Gavin @ October 2 2009, 6:24 PM BST

Why what are they bombing now?

Nothing today. But they gave the wrong answer in a referendum last year, so are being polled again.

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