Quote: Lee Henman @ October 2 2009, 3:32 AM BSTAs for one all-powerful being looking over us - I can easily buy that image if I visualize him/her/it as a vastly-superior alien being. Which isn't that different to what Christians believe, I suppose. So umm...yeah.
Dunno.
Like I said, space lizards.
Quote: Tim Walker @ October 2 2009, 3:36 AM BSTMy concept of a "higher power" is based very much in quantum physics
F**king Hell Walker, your brain is a whirling, bubbling maelstrom of intense, luminescent intelligence. I bet your bogies glow in the dark. 
Mine do too, but that's because I come from Middlesbrough.
Quote: zooo @ October 2 2009, 3:39 AM BSTLike I said, space lizards.
shurrup you
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 2 2009, 3:39 AM BSTWell, if you have a hard time believing that you will some day cease to exist, what do you reckon was going on before you existed?
Is that relevant to me and my future existence problems?
Quote: Lee Henman @ October 2 2009, 3:46 AM BSTIs that relevant to me and my future existence problems?
Apparently not. I just wondered how pre-Lee fitted into your worldview.
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 2 2009, 3:36 AM BSTHow do you explain the billions of years before you were here?
Ah yes, but as Einstein proved, there is no such thing as absolute time. Time is relative in the same way as space is relative. For example, what we would call "1000 light years away" is based only on our perception of time. If you were travelling close enough to the speed of light, it wouldn't actually take you 1000 years or so to cover the distance. Space would shrink, so in fact the time taken to cover the distance would be only 50 years (as you perceive it).
Start applying Einstein's relative space and relative time to the history of the universe and all sorts of weird theories and paradoxes start to occur...
Anyway, I'll get my coat and definitely go to bed now.
Quote: Tim Walker @ October 2 2009, 3:47 AM BSTAnyway, I'll get my coat and definitely go to bed now.
You should buy a duvet.
Night.
Quote: Tim Walker @ October 2 2009, 3:36 AM BSTMy concept of a "higher power" is based very much in quantum physics, if that helps to confuse issues more.
It does. For me at least.
Given that quantum physics seems to be so damn highbrow pretty much nobody understands it, it's always seemed to be one of those things you can use to corroborate just about any whackjob notion...
"Spirituality" for me is a personal thing, not a faith in an ultimate creator, more a journey of personal change and discovery which is linked to the interconnectedness of all people and all things.
(Blimey, if I didn't seem odd enough already...
...like that, for example. 
But seriously, I'd be interested to heard this quantum physics based higher power theory. I won't be able to offer educated criticism, but I'd genuinely love to hear it.
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 2 2009, 3:39 AM BSTWell, if you have a hard time believing that you will some day cease to exist, what do you reckon was going on before you existed?
Quote: Lee Henman @ October 2 2009, 3:46 AM BSTIs that relevant to me and my future existence problems?
The fact that I was shagging the lady next door in 1966 is totally irrelevant to Lee Henman and his future existence problems.
Just had a thought - unless it was his mum.
Quote: Morrace @ October 2 2009, 3:56 AM BSTThe fact that I was shagging the lady next door in 1966 is totally irrelevant to Lee Henman and his future existence problems.
Just had a thought - unless it was his mum.
Daddy? 
Doubtful - we lived in a street near Clapham Junction SW11 - forgot her name but she was blonde and stood 5 feet ten inches in hob-nail boots.
Most of the comedians I know are satanists.
But then I am the pope of the satanic church of comedy.
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 2 2009, 3:52 AM BSTIt does. For me at least.
Given that quantum physics seems to be so damn highbrow pretty much nobody understands it, it's always seemed to be one of those things you can use to corroborate just about any whackjob notion...
...like that, for example.
But seriously, I'd be interested to heard this quantum physics based higher power theory. I won't be able to offer educated criticism, but I'd genuinely love to hear it.
I know a Quantum Physicist who is a Christian. It is possible to be both.
Back to comedians - I believe Tim Vine is a Christian.
I'm an athiest and a lot of my fave people in comedy are, but...they can be a real smug bunch of self-congratulatory f**kers. A little too pleased with themselves.
Quote: Loopey @ October 2 2009, 11:03 AM BSTBack to comediens - I believe Tim Vine is a Christian.
That's a shame. I quite like Tim Vine.
I'll see your Tim Vine and raise to one David Mitchell. Gotta be an atheist.
Quote: john lucas 101 @ October 2 2009, 11:09 AM BSTI'm an athiest and a lot of my fave people in comedy are, but...they can be a real smug bunch of self-congratulatory f**kers. A little too pleased with themselves.
Unlike most religious folk???
I believe in whoever it was that created God. And I think it was us.
Milton Jones is a Christian.
Quote: Nogget @ October 2 2009, 11:15 AM BSTMilton Jones is a Christian.
He's pretty good. I think he's responsible for converting Sally Phillips, who is now a properly psychotic round-the-twist mentalist Christian, and she's pretty good too.
