My answer to this debate is that I normally refuse to look at anyone when I speak or am in the same room as them. Whatever their gender or state of dress or undress. Most people assume it's arrogance. It's actually a mix of shyness and deference to the other people. I'm so conscious of their boundaries that I won't even cross it with my eyes.
Quote: Ronnie Anderson @ September 22 2009, 8:38 PM BSTIMaybe you don't wear revealing clothes for people to look at you but you must admit that there are probably quite a few girls that do.
I don't wear reveailing clothes these days, btw, I'm too old - but I'm not prepared to wear a baggy tracksuit yet either! 
Quote: SlagA @ September 22 2009, 8:41 PM BSTMy answer to this debate is that I normally refuse to look at anyone when I speak or am in the same room as them. Whatever their gender or state of dress or undress. Most people assume it's arrogance. It's actually a mix of shyness and deference to the other people. I'm so conscious of their boundaries that I won't even cross it with my eyes.
Awww
I probably come across as a bit stuck up because I don't really flirt.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ September 22 2009, 8:42 PM BSTI probably come across as a bit stuck up because I don't really flirt.
I flirt but never while I'm in the same room as the object of my attention.
Quote: SlagA @ September 22 2009, 8:41 PM BSTMy answer to this debate is that I normally refuse to look at anyone when I speak or am in the same room as them. Whatever their gender or state of dress or undress. Most people assume it's arrogance. It's actually a mix of shyness and deference to the other people. I'm so conscious of their boundaries that I won't even cross it with my eyes.
Yeah that's how I am quite often. But I find this is always seen as a bad things be it because they think I'm shy or arrogant and is not noted with any appreciation.
Sorry Dolly, whatever your opinion on how you should dress and how others act towards you is out of your hands. You don't make the rules.
So you can go around being angrily indignant based on your soley personal perception or you can face facts.
Complaining that all men should strictly adhere to your own made up code of social etiquette is a non-starter.
Apologies for being the bearer of bad news.
Last week a friend of mine, with large breasts, ran across a road, and a guy on the other side said to her 'Nice Tits!'. She was so shocked all she could think of was to say 'Thank You'. It was a compliment, but now that guy thinks it's ok to comment on women breasts.
I'd never say 'Nice Dick' to a guy walking down the street, and I am a perve!
Quote: AngieBaby @ September 22 2009, 8:47 PM BSTLast week a friend of mine, with large breasts, ran across a road, and a guy on the other side said to her 'Nice Tits!'. She was so shocked all she could think of was to say 'Thank You'. It was a compliment, but now that guy thinks it's ok to comment on women breasts.
I'd never say 'Nice Dick' to a guy walking down the street, and I am a perve!
I bet you've complimented men on their backsides before though. You evil sexist. 
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ September 22 2009, 8:49 PM BSTI bet you've complimented men on their backsides before though. You evil sexist.
Oh Jeez, just how pissed was I on Saturday
Quote: AngieBaby @ September 22 2009, 8:47 PM BSTI'd never say 'Nice Dick' to a guy walking down the street!
You would if I'd stumbled out into the street in a valium-induced haze and nothing else.
Quote: AngieBaby @ September 22 2009, 8:50 PM BSTOh Jeez, just how pissed was I on Saturday
Do you come here often?
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ September 22 2009, 8:46 PM BSTSorry Dolly, whatever your opinion on how you should dress and how others act towards you is out of your hands. You don't make the rules.
So you can go around being angrily indignant based on your soley personal perception or you can face facts.
Complaining that all men should strictly adhere to your own made up code of social etiquette is a non-starter.
Apologies for being the bearer of bad news.
Well it works for me. Anyone breaking my rules hasn't got a look in, and I can't see I've ever lost out. Why would any woman want to know a bloke that's been staring at her chest and then comes over and to say "you've got nice tits"?
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ September 22 2009, 8:52 PM BSTWell it works for me.
It's certainly more honest then I like your shoes.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ September 22 2009, 8:52 PM BSTWhy would any woman want to know a bloke that's been staring at her chest and then comes over and to say "you've got nice tits"?
So wait...that didn't work on you or it did? If you don't answer in time I'll have to try it on my wife when she walks through the door.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ September 22 2009, 8:55 PM BSTIt's certainly more honest then I like your shoes.
I've had that used on me in a bar. I wore he same brand of shoes because of it for 3 years.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ September 22 2009, 8:52 PM BSTWhy would any woman want to know a bloke that's been staring at her chest and then comes over and to say "you've got nice tits"?
Some of those women spent a lot of money on those tits, it would be rude not to compliment them.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ September 22 2009, 8:55 PM BSTIt's certainly more honest then I like your shoes.
But which one worked and how long did the relationships last?
Just because you might be thinking something doesn't mean you have to say it, or anyone wants you to say it to them.
Oh dear, I've told women I like their shoes.