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Just watched Episode One.

It has the air of a pilot, in the sense that they've tried to cram as much into half-an-hour as possible. However, I thought (for a pilot) the production was generally very good, not ragged around the edges in the way that they can be.

Having watched Lunch Monkeys recently (which is basically aimed at the same type of audience) Off The Hook showed that with stronger writing and better casting you can produce some potentially interesting characters.

The writing was generally strong, but the performances of the leads really added a lot. They were universally good.

The first/pilot episode scared me (possibly as it did others) as soon as it opened, with kids standing around laughing about the inhaler "incident". Oh God, I thought, it's not going to be one of those type of shows, is it? However, structurally it got straight into the action and didn't hang around, which was good. The basic premise was delivered efficiently and you knew what the show was about pretty darn quick.

There were far too many contrivances and coincidences in the plot, but again viewing this as a pilot one can make some allowances for that. The art class, the bacteria-infested milk cocktail & party, the Third World lecture speech... all of these were crammed in and relied on a hefty suspension of disbelief. The performances and pace of the show managed to paper over these cracks to an extent. I didn't like the "hot girl" (Becky) introducing "Mr Shiny Face" as "this is my boyfriend from back home" - the kind of expositionary line which makes me whince! Nor the sudden decision to dump said boyfriend in the denouement. However, if you watch this as a pilot trying to buy itself a series, it's (almost) forgiveable.

The dialogue was well-written, though there were too many "I can't believe you've/I'm/he's...!" type of lines for my liking (but maybe teens do now all talk like they're constantly reviewing their own lives). There were no huge laughs, but some nice original-sounding lines. The tone of the script erred more on the side of cheerful optimism, as opposed to charmless cynicism. (I suspect the writer is a big fan of Superbad, but there are far worse comedies to crib from.)

I imagine as the series develops it will settle down and not rush to cram in plot strands, but to spend more time developing the characters. This show has quite a lot of potential, so we'll see whether it fulfils it in the weeks to come. Should be interesting to watch.

Oh, the title. I may be just too old, but I don't see why this was thought better than Fresh? I can sort-of see where they're coming from with Off The Hook; but that feeling doesn't just apply to kids who leave school for university, it applies to anyone who's left home for the first time. Then again, I thought The Inbetweeners was a dreadful title when I first heard it. (In fact, in some ways I still do, but it fits the show like a glove.)

(P.S. Apologies if I have made some of the same points as others, which having re-read this thread once more, I definitely have. ;))

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ September 12 2009, 11:12 PM BST

Aren't you butch, you big dirty man?

(re-watches Sleeping with the Enemy and imagines Aaron and zooo in the main roles)

You want me to pretend to be dead, run away and wear a crap wig?

I know that Off the Hook was originally a pilot but I thought they tried to cram too much in. You don't normally do the 'reveal' of the plain girl becoming beautiful until much later on in the series. Or the object of the main dude's affections dumping the boyfriend almost straight away. It was a bit like watching a series of Friends in fast forward.

True. But something had to happen! Otherwise people would have said it was too boring to get a series.

Quote: zooo @ September 12 2009, 11:19 PM BST

You want me to pretend to be dead, run away and wear a crap wig?

Depends on your student loans.

Quote: Tim Walker @ September 12 2009, 11:17 PM BST

There were far too many contrivances and coincidences in the plot, but again viewing this as a pilot one can make some allowances for that. The art class, the bacteria-infested milk cocktail & party, the Third World lecture speech... all of these were crammed in and relied on a hefty suspension of disbelief.

The speech, yeah. Art class ... ok, it jarred a bit in that he hadn't been told it was only his face they were interested in. But the Bacterium A? That worked for me.

But then I'm just an average viewer, not decomposing and analysing it as many here do.

Quote: Aaron @ September 12 2009, 11:51 PM BST

But then I'm just an average viewer, not decomposing and analysing it as many here do.

It all comes from a place of love for comedy, Aaron...

If you ignore the "analysis" shit, I basically say that it was well-written, some good lines, very well performed and has some good potential. Not hilarious by any means, but some promising stuff. :)

Yeah, fair enough actually, the bacterium thing wasn't really contrived. In any normal circumstances you'd build half a plot around that storyline, but this pilot was cramming it all in. (They would also have had the budget to fulfil the pay-off properly, with a load of students being made-up as Danny was and being taken to hospital etc.)

Oh, and was this pilot episode made up from bits of the online Fresh series, out of interest?

Quote: Aaron @ September 12 2009, 11:51 PM BST

decomposing

"deconstructing" a more appropriate word perhaps?

That's the one.

I was surprised how good this was. The writing is very solid, however, I do think it lacked a lot of originality almost every single aspect of the show has been featured in other recent comedies.

In truth it wasn't that far off an Inbetweeners at University, but I think it managed to just about create an identity of its own. The nude class was easily the funniest bit.

I thought that Scarlet dropping her pencil in amazement was a nice touch.

Actually rather enjoyed this. Nice characters and a certain charm. Soooo much better than bloody Lunch Monkeys.

F**k knows what to say about this one. Some of it is highly amusing, but I really loathe cringe comedy. It's just painful, not funny. Please Mr TV Producer, let it die. Leave it in 2007 where it was on its last, last stroke-afflicted legs. Last week's quick-fire cringe-finish, cringe-finish, cringe-finish, was a much better, more satisfying and watchable ... well, watch. Stringing the one set-up out for so long I found really hard to sit through - and really not in a good way at all.

It may have been cringeworthy but I did laugh quite a few times. I especially liked Fred's song. In other news, Scarlett is pretty too.

Toddled along quite nicely this week. Though the limit as to how naive the two leads (especially Danny) can be was a little stretched.

Agreed. But I am enjoying it though. "The Notorious BFG" :D

Oh yes, what jarred with me was that that girl wasn't attractive in the slightest.

Although I suppose that's as subjective as comedy itself.

Quote: Aaron @ September 18 2009, 12:22 AM BST

what jarred with me was that that girl wasn't attractive in the slightest.

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