Quote: Aaron @ August 25 2009, 8:56 PM BSTif you continue to show such wilful disregard for the site rules, then you'll be banned.
i bet you had a stiffy when you wrote that
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Quote: Matthew Stott @ August 25 2009, 9:36 PM BSTMe. I think we've firmly established that all southerners are flouncy, Dirty Dancing watching gadabouts; no need to labour the point.
Of all the chick-flick rom-coms...!
Quote: Sebastian Orange-News @ August 25 2009, 9:47 PM BSTi bet you had a stiffy when you wrote that
No, but I do now.
Quote: Sebastian Orange-News @ August 25 2009, 9:47 PM BSTi bet you had a stiffy when you wrote that
Look as a dyslexic, rubbish speller etc etc I actually like this forums tight rules on use of English. It's nice to be somewhere where the rules of English apply and most posts are easy to read.
So frankly it pisses me off when people randomly mess with site rules to make some sort of none-point.
Quote: Sebastian Orange-News @ August 25 2009, 9:47 AM BSTIn truth it is the total opposite. Hardly ever do people from Manchester go to Liverpool. I must admit I am from Manchester and I have gone to Liverpool quite a bit but only cos I went to uni there, however the Trafford Centre is full of people from Liverpool moaning about 'manc prices'.
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LOL. You do know the two cities are only a 45-minute-drive apart don't you? Sorry, but that's got to be an exaggeration. I used to go to Manchester all the time, back in the '90s, for the clubs, and a certain specialist record shop called Fat City, in Oldham Street, and I didn't notice any difference in prices. I've got some great memories of the place, but I haven't been for a few years.
Actually, forget about the North/South rivalry, the Liverpool/Manchester rivalry is the real big one!
England isn't that big of a place, so I'm always astounded when people from places like Manchester tell me they've never been to places like London. For f**k's sake, it's not the Pacific Ocean, it's only a couple hours by car, bus or train.
Quote: DaButt @ August 26 2009, 2:57 AM BSTEngland isn't that big of a place, so I'm always astounded when people from places like Manchester tell me they've never been to places like London. For f**k's sake, it's not the Pacific Ocean, it's only a couple hours by car, bus or train.
Honestly, the way British, or even just English people talk about each other, you'd think we all came from different planets! One of the reasons for this is the fact that there are so many different accents here. The reason there are so many accents is mostly down to all the different invaders/settlers we've had here over the centuries, e.g. the Basques, Anglo-Saxons, Romans, Vikings, Normans, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Jamaicans etc.
Quote: catskillz @ August 26 2009, 3:17 AM BSTHonestly, the way British, or even just English people talk about each other, you'd think we all came from different planets! One of the reasons for this is the fact that there are so many different accents here.
We probably have more accents in the U.S., but there isn't really any stigma attached to them. The worst someone might do would be to ask where you're from because they're curious about your accent.
According to ana rticle in todays Guardian 81% of people working in the Midlands would leave to the countryside or the coast if they could.
That's more people than wanted to flee East Germany. Is there some sort of Brummy Stasi?
Quote: DaButt @ August 26 2009, 2:57 AM BSTEngland isn't that big of a place, so I'm always astounded when people from places like Manchester tell me they've never been to places like London. For f**k's sake, it's not the Pacific Ocean, it's only a couple hours by car, bus or train.
It's true that we are pathetic in that respect, but while it might be only a couple of hours to London in theory, in practise, it will often takes a lot longer to get anywhere. Remember that London and the surrounding area is densely populated, and progress can be very slow. I used to live in the NE of London, and found that it would take too long to ever go to the SW. I now find myself regularly in central London, and know people who spend an hour just getting home from there, to just a few miles further north. On Sunday! Also, people who live nearer the outskirts of London, will often stay in hotels in central London just to go to the theatres.
The strangest thing of all is to fly over London. It's there, it's gone, in a few seconds, yet you could spend much of the day locked in traffic down on the ground.
In Oldham they used to have a big sign on one of the railway bridges proudly declaring
OLDHAM HOME OF THE TUBULAR BANDAGE
I don't know if it is still there.
I think it might be, but JuliaC will know for sure.
Quote: DaButt @ August 26 2009, 2:57 AM BSTEngland isn't that big of a place, so I'm always astounded when people from places like Manchester tell me they've never been to places like London. For f**k's sake, it's not the Pacific Ocean, it's only a couple hours by car, bus or train.
It might not be that big a place to you, used to driving thousands of miles at once, but to people who live here it's rather large! People generally holiday outside of the country rather than within, in search of tropical sun which cannot be found on this relatively small island. Because of the size of the country the nearest big town or city is rarely more than hour ish travel away, and aside from the tourist attractions everything is the same in every city. Same shops - or same kinds of shops - selling the same products, same kinds of nightclubs, cinemas, and often very similar historical sites. Despite the accents, places aren't really that different, so there's not the incentive.
Besides, if you really think "it's only a couple hours" away, you're very deluded.
For its size, the United Kingdom is the most geologically diverse place on the planet. TRUFAX!
Quote: DaButt @ August 26 2009, 2:57 AM BSTEngland isn't that big of a place, so I'm always astounded when people from places like Manchester tell me they've never been to places like London. For f**k's sake, it's not the Pacific Ocean, it's only a couple hours by car, bus or train.
I'm sure Americas vast distance between different locations makes the journey as interesting as the destination. Well not here boy-oh. Sure, nice country-sides, architecture, etc. But in my experience that only lasts for about an hour at the most, if you're lucky, before you have to go through some god-awful run shit hole of a town and get stuck in traffic or nearly killed on a round-a-bout by some crazy old git.
Because the journey is so short, but sometimes not long enough to justify overnight accommodation, people are often put off by the expense or sheer head-ache it would cause.
Welcome to England
Quote: Aaron @ August 26 2009, 1:29 PM BSTBesides, if you really think "it's only a couple hours" away, you're very deluded.
I just checked the rail schedule: Manchester to London is two hours and eight minutes. By car it's three hours and forty minutes. Not exactly a once-in-a-lifetime undertaking, is it?
2 hours and 8 minutes by their reckoning. In reality, probably add another hour and a hell of a lot of hassle. Plus astronomical fares.
Similar for road. More likely to be 5 hours each way.
Still, not the undertaking of a lifetime, no. But still there's no incentive to make the journey. A couple of hours by train to London, or maybe an hour by car, by yourself/ves, at a tiny fraction of the cost, to your closest shopping destination. No-brainer really.