Quote: Renegade Carpark @ July 18 2009, 10:57 PM BSTI think there needs to be a chart for the accurate colour of a woman's hair, so far I've discovered -
Dark Blonde - Ginge
Mmmm.... not quite. I definitely wouldn't say dark blondes had any hint of red at all.
Just to confuse you more!
So dark blonde = brown
Quote: Lee Henman @ July 17 2009, 8:46 PM BSTFor instance, if there was a line in a modern sitcom script about Jews being tight with money it'd probably never make it to the screen. But put a line in about the French being garlic-sucking war cowards and we can't get enough.
The French are the populous of a nation, not a race.
Although very very few blondes...
It can be quite mousey but not quite. It's really hard to explain without an image!
Mens hair colour.
Don't care
Don't care
I'm not bald
Don't care
Are you coming onto me?
Don't care
Don't care
Sootyj masculine brown the colour of manliness.
Quote: Lee Henman @ July 17 2009, 8:46 PM BSTSo I was just wondering what you guys thought about it. Do you think it's right that we should choose our comedy targets very carefully, or do you think the world would be a easier place if comedy was on an even playing field?
Personally I'm on the fence on this one. I'm not sure what I think. How about you?
Everything should be equal. Inequalities like this are what fuels the "us and them" mentality that most scaremongered racism is. It's just playing to and fuelling it, albeit in a subtler, and IMO much more dangerous, way.
Quote: sootyj @ July 18 2009, 11:16 PM BSTMens hair colour.
Don't care
Don't care
I'm not bald
Don't care
Are you coming onto me?
Don't care
Don't care
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ July 18 2009, 11:15 PM BSTIt can be quite mousey but not quite. It's really hard to explain without an image!
It's quite simple, take a piece of cheddar cheese and a piece of milk chocolate, stick them on your head, if your hair colour is more like the cheese, then you are blonde, if it is darker then the cheese and more like the chocolate, then you are brunette.
Et voila, merci, quel heur et il?
This is actually pretty close to my natural colour. I suppose it does look light brown from some angles.
Quote: Aaron @ July 18 2009, 11:14 PM BSTThe French are the populous of a nation, not a race.
A race? They're not even human, like the Morlocks.
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ July 18 2009, 11:19 PM BSTThis is actually pretty close to my natural colour. I suppose it does look light brown from some angles.
I would say blonde, depending on prevalent lighting conditions.
That is what I have been told is dark blonde anyway!
BTW Mon Français est meilleur que votre Français. 
Quote: Joseff @ July 17 2009, 9:32 PM BSTI'm tight with money and I have a massive penis but I'm not black nor Jewish.
Me too!
Quote: SlagA @ July 17 2009, 9:39 PM BSTThere's a certain Little Britain sketch where the audience are laughing at what's essentially a filthy racist tirade before the camera reveal.
Which one is that?
Quote: SlagA @ July 17 2009, 9:39 PM BSTIf they laughed after the tirade, then yes, it was ironic and the racist is the jerk. But before the reveal there's absolutely no excuse for the audience to laugh.
Well there is; because it's funny.
Quote: Kenneth @ July 18 2009, 6:02 AM BSTI watched Dirty Harry a few weeks ago and this bit of dialogue made me laugh:
Gonzales: There is one question, Inspector Callahan: Why do they call you "Dirty Harry"?
De Georgio: Ah that's one thing about our Harry, doesn't play any favourites! Harry hates everybody: Limeys, Micks, Hebes, Fat Dagos, Niggers, Honkies, Chinks, you name it.
Gonzales: How does he feel about Mexicans?
De Georgio: Ask him.
Harry Callahan: Especially Spics.
This reminds me of a story an old friend told me once about his first day as an Officer of Customs & Excise doing VAT visits in the West End. "All Pakis are bent, his new line manager told him. "Now when I say that I am not being racist, because so are the Jews, and the Greeks, and as for the Turks..."
And of course as a generalisation, at the time, that was about right. Because the only way an immigrant could make a go in business was by going into marginal trades, such as cut make and trim, where fiddling your taxes was the only way to make a profit. Stereotypes usually emerge for a reason, and genuine observation should always be fair game for comedy. When stereotypes become genuinely offensive is when they are lazily parroted in a spirit of ignorant prejudice without any understanding of the context that gives rise to it.
(Oh, and jokes about the Welsh shagging sheep or Gingers being ugly, are not really offensive, because the people telling the jokes do not actually believe them; they just tell them because they know that Welsh and Ginger people find them offensive. The joke is in the wind-up, not in the insult.)
Quote: AndreaLynne @ July 18 2009, 3:16 PM BSTCan I just ask a silly question because I honestly do not know, not having ever been there before...why does everyone make fun of the Welsh? Please don't hate me for asking...
Because they're the inoffensive 'easy targets' who won't bite back. And they're a bit "out of sight, out of mind" really, tucked over there at the side of this land mass with a relatively low population, and very little really commonly known about their traditional customs etc.
Quote: Aaron @ July 18 2009, 11:17 PM BSTEverything should be equal. Inequalities like this are what fuels the "us and them" mentality that most scaremongered racism is. It's just playing to and fuelling it, albeit in a subtler, and IMO much more dangerous, way.
Sometimes you must just hate yourself for such communist talk!