That could be a good point, yes.
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I recorded the episodes and finally sat down to watch them last night. Watched the first 4 parts in a row, and was tempted to watch the 5th but it was 1.30am by then. Just watched part 5.
I thought it was excellent, if only Torchwood was like that all the time. If only Dr Who was more like that too. You can't beat a good story, a cracking pace and a serious tone. Great stuff, and I'm normally very hard to please.
I'm glad everyone else enjoyed it. 
Quote: NoggetFred @ July 18 2009, 3:42 PM BSTI'm glad everyone else enjoyed it.
You didn't? it was brilliant TV.
These were the first episodes I've really watched and I enjoyed it. How does it compare to the rest?
Quote: AndreaLynne @ July 18 2009, 4:03 PM BSTThese were the first episodes I've really watched and I enjoyed it. How does it compare to the rest?
You'd probably be quite surprised, these latest episodes are quite a different beast in many respects to the previous two series. I suppose the best way to describe it, is that the first two series were often quite teenage in feel, as opposed to this mini-series more adult tone. I enjoyed Torchwoods first two runs, there were some good episodes, especially in series two, but these latest episodes saw them really nail the show for the first time to me. Hopefully, if we get more, it'll carry on in this most recent vein.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ July 18 2009, 3:59 PM BSTYou didn't?
Not much. I found it 'bearable', which puts it above my past experience, but I'm sick of watching so much time devoted to soldiers running around and pointing guns.
On the plus side, the 'supporting' cast was great, and I admit to enjoying some of it up until episode 4.
Quote: NoggetFred @ July 18 2009, 4:35 PM BSTI'm sick of watching so much time devoted to soldiers running around and pointing guns.
Well, I suppose they could have sent librarians to round up the kids. 
...there were a few little things which puzzled me, too. For instance, old scientist gets shot in the leg by the fit paramilitary bird; a few minutes later he's OK again and helping them. WTF?
Also, it's near the end and Jack hasn't saved the Earth yet. Right then, have him twiddle some knobs on the whizzy kit. That was easy!
Quote: NoggetFred @ July 18 2009, 5:42 PM BST...there were a few little things which puzzled me, too. For instance, old scientist gets shot in the leg by the fit paramilitary bird; a few minutes later he's OK again and helping them. WTF?
Also, it's near the end and Jack hasn't saved the Earth yet. Right then, have him twiddle some knobs on the whizzy kit. That was easy!
In terms of hard science, it was not much more sophisticated than Dr. Zarkov knocking up a new ray gun for Flash Gordon, but it made narrative sense, in that the key to solving the problem was Jack realising the significance of Clem's death, and the moral dilemna meant that it was far from easy.
Quote: Timbo @ July 18 2009, 6:06 PM BSTIn terms of hard science, it was not much more sophisticated than Dr. Zarkov knocking up a new ray gun for Flash Gordon, but it made narrative sense, in that the key to solving the problem was Jack realising the significance of Clem's death, and the moral dilemna meant that it was far from easy.
Yeah, Clem. He was Jack's grandson, wasn't he. I know that because the writer/s *told* me so, and if they hadn't told me, he'd have just been another kid actor without any proper lines. Perhaps you've met him in previous episodes which I missed? I just didn't respond emotionally to it.
No Clem was the elderly orphan played by Paul Copley. You really weren't paying attention were you?
The grandmother had been introduced in a previous episode. That the relationship had resulted in a child was a reveal, but we are always learning new things about Jack's past, that is part of the fun of the character. The child was not a developed character, but his mother was, and it was Jack's betrayal of his daughter that gave the storyline its emotional charge.
My bad, I hadn't quite woken up before 7 this morning.
I accept that you have an advantage if you've seen the relationship develop over previous shows.
Great ratings:
Top Programmes week ending 12 July 2009
1 CORONATION STREET (MON 2028) - 9.52 - ITV1
2 CORONATION STREET (MON 1932) - 9.41 - ITV1
3 CORONATION STREET (WED 1929) - 8.94 - ITV1
4 EASTENDERS (MON 1959) - 8.85 - BBC1
5 CORONATION STREET (FRI 1932) - 8.37 - ITV1
6 CORONATION STREET (FRI 2028) - 8.11 - ITV1
7 EASTENDERS (FRI 2000) - 7.88 - BBC1
8 EASTENDERS (THU 1928) - 7.66 - BBC1
9 TOP GEAR (SUN 2001) - 6.80 - BBC2
10 EMMERDALE (MON 1901) - 6.77 - ITV1
11 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF EARTH (THU 2059) - 6.76 - BBC1
12 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF EARTH (FRI 2100) - 6.58 - BBC1
13 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF THE EARTH (MON 2100) - 6.47 - BBC1
14 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF EARTH (WED 2100) - 6.40 - BBC1
15 CASUALTY (SAT 2051) - 6.32 - BBC1
16 EMMERDALE (WED 1859) - 6.17 - ITV1
17 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF EARTH (TUE 2100) - 6.14 - BBC1
18 EMMERDALE (THU 1902) - 6.05 - ITV1
Look at all the soaps in there. I dunno.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ July 22 2009, 5:16 PM BSTTop Programmes week ending 12 July 2009
1 CORONATION STREET (MON 2028) - 9.52 - ITV1
2 CORONATION STREET (MON 1932) - 9.41 - ITV1
3 CORONATION STREET (WED 1929) - 8.94 - ITV1
4 EASTENDERS (MON 1959) - 8.85 - BBC1
5 CORONATION STREET (FRI 1932) - 8.37 - ITV1
6 CORONATION STREET (FRI 2028) - 8.11 - ITV1
7 EASTENDERS (FRI 2000) - 7.88 - BBC1
8 EASTENDERS (THU 1928) - 7.66 - BBC1
9 TOP GEAR (SUN 2001) - 6.80 - BBC2
10 EMMERDALE (MON 1901) - 6.77 - ITV1
11 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF EARTH (THU 2059) - 6.76 - BBC1
12 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF EARTH (FRI 2100) - 6.58 - BBC1
13 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF THE EARTH (MON 2100) - 6.47 - BBC1
14 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF EARTH (WED 2100) - 6.40 - BBC1
15 CASUALTY (SAT 2051) - 6.32 - BBC1
16 EMMERDALE (WED 1859) - 6.17 - ITV1
17 TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF EARTH (TUE 2100) - 6.14 - BBC1
18 EMMERDALE (THU 1902) - 6.05 - ITV1
Congrats to Torchwood, but overall a sad snapshot of our nation.