Quote: Morrace @ June 16 2009, 1:59 PM BSTFor info; http://tinyurl.com/bszo38
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A few interesting insights... Page 3
Quote: Morrace @ June 16 2009, 2:11 PM BSTI forgot to mention that my son was smoking when he called me a 'c**t'.
Oh, well that makes it a lot clearer then.
Quote: Morrace @ June 16 2009, 2:11 PM BSTI forgot to mention that my son was smoking when he called me a 'c**t'.
Quote: Tim Walker @ June 16 2009, 2:19 PM BSTOh, well that makes it a lot clearer then.
He was smoking smoking free- base ("crack") cocaine.
Quote: Morrace @ June 16 2009, 2:24 PM BSTHe was smoking smoking free- base ("crack") cocaine.
OK...
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ June 16 2009, 1:26 PM BSTBeing brought up in a Glaswegian/cockney/Irish household myself I've never had a problem with swearing, but understand some people find it offensive.
I'm surprised you can understand anything!
Quote: chipolata @ June 16 2009, 2:07 PM BSTI never swear in front of my parents. Even now. And I never swear in public either. I don't like hearing it, so I don't do it.
Part of the mechanism of swearing is the agreement between swearer and listener that the swearing should be offensive. If the listener takes no offence at the swearing, then the act of swearing has not functioned.
But in a way, it's very useful that we should take offence at these words, otherwise a powerful means of communication is lost.
Quote: Griff @ June 16 2009, 4:28 PM BSTS
I don't think "This lager is f**king excellent" is meant to offend, for example.
Only when said to a real ale drinker.
Quote: Griff @ June 16 2009, 4:28 PM BSTSwearing's also an "intensifier" of adjectives though, and a form of bonding between friends.
I don't think "This lager is f**king excellent" is meant to offend, for example.
Perhaps it's meant to be a demonstration of that bond, for us not to take offence when a friend does something so ostensibly offensive in front of us. After all, often a friend will be greeted with something like ' alright you c*nt ', which would be very offensive to most people.
imo
Quote: Griff @ June 16 2009, 4:28 PM BSTI don't think "This lager is f**king excellent" is meant to offend, for example.
Whereas "This Two Pints of Lager and a Packet Of Crisps is f**king excellent" clearly is.
Quote: NoggetFred @ June 16 2009, 4:23 PM BSTBut in a way, it's very useful that we should take offence at these words, otherwise a powerful means of communication is lost.
The problem is that if one tells, say, a nun to "F**k off!" Whilst she will undoubtedly go away; has she gone away in disgust of one's swearing - or actually because she's been told to 'f**k off'?
Either way, the end result is fine by me. I'm just curious.
Quote: Chappers @ June 16 2009, 4:16 PM BSTI'm surprised you can understand anything!
The opposite; Rab C Nesbit, Eastenders, Father Ted... I can understand every word. 
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ June 16 2009, 4:39 PM BSTThe opposite; Rab C Nesbit, Eastenders, Father Ted... I can understand every word.
'Eastenders' is easy to understand. It's Cockney I have a problem with.
Quote: Morrace @ June 16 2009, 5:18 PM BST'Eastenders' is easy to understand. It's Cockney I have a problem with.
Ah, there's old style London accent and there's the new one I'm not so good at - you know - the sort of baby talk accent. Then there's really old skool, like my granddad who said "gorn" for "gone", much like the Queen in fact.
Ah, there's old style sarcasm as well. I meant that 'Eastenders' Stage School "Naff orff!" 'Mockney' is easy to understand. (I lied about the 'Cockney I have a problem with')
Ah well, it'll go down better next house.
Re: swearing. Some good advice I was given was to only use one F word in any script and put it in at the the crucial moment. Any more than that dilutes the effect. That was from the Head of Childrens' Programming.