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BNP - Could it really happen? Page 9

Quote: Tim Walker @ June 8 2009, 12:18 AM BST

Yes, but if you don't apply the same level of rights and protection to a (let's remember) currently legal political party, then you give them and their supporters further grievance. You don't protect one person's legitimate rights by denying those to another.

Anti-BNP demonstrators are as counter-productive as the anti-Nazi demos were in the 1980s. They just ended-up give publicity to the NF (even improving recruitment). These groups are better defeated by being ignored as far as possible by the majority and, where they incite hatred or threaten peace, to be dealt with by rational argument and enforcing existing legislation.

The NF eventually became a mess because it could only recruit losers, had no coherent policy and was broken apart due to in-fighting.

I'm actually a bit glad they won, drag them and their sorry policies into the light of day and let people see what they're about. I have faith that the British people are broadly liberal, fair and democratic and the biggest result for this will be a lot of embarrassment for those who voted BNP.

And I think we should be paying way more attention to just how fearsome Labour's stand on immigration is becoming.

Quote: Tim Walker @ June 8 2009, 12:27 AM BST

So presumably it would be quite reasonable to attack any Irish republicans or Unionists on that basis?

See above.

Quote: Nil Putters @ June 8 2009, 12:28 AM BST

See above.

Sorry, Nil, was being needlessly pedantic. :)

UKIP also seem to be doing well, albeit they seem more kind of jolly and nutty. More like an Ealing film about some endearing eccentrics who run for government than an actual political party.

Nah harm done. Wave

Quote: sootyj @ June 8 2009, 12:30 AM BST

UKIP also seem to be doing well, albeit they seem more kind of jolly and nutty. More like an Ealing film about some endearing eccentrics who run for government than an actual political party.

My Mum voted UKIP and she's Jewish (though, as she points out, you can't tell).

Quote: Nil Putters @ June 8 2009, 12:22 AM BST

I don't think so, I'd gladly lose your respect ;) to pound Griffin's face into the ground. These people have used physical violence for years before becoming 'legit'. I think he'd quietly welcome it. :)

Just as long as you realise you're sinking to their level, that's alright.

Quote: Tim Walker @ June 8 2009, 12:35 AM BST

My Mum voted UKIP and she's Jewish (though, as she points out, you can't tell).

I have a distant cousin running for them, mind you thinking isn't his strongest point.

Quote: sootyj @ June 8 2009, 12:30 AM BST

UKIP also seem to be doing well, albeit they seem more kind of jolly and nutty. More like an Ealing film about some endearing eccentrics who run for government than an actual political party.

Laughing out loud

So true.

Quote: sootyj @ June 8 2009, 12:37 AM BST

I have a distant cousin running for them, mind you thinking isn't his strongest point.

Has he done the London Marathon?

Ooohhhh stinker of a pun!

But no he was running for parliament. The BNP I believe have at least one Jewish councillor; turkeys voting for Christmas and all that.

Oh and with regards to the BNP.
Let's not become a dictatorship to keep the fascists out.

Wow. Nick Griffin himself is now an MEP.

Quote: sootyj @ June 8 2009, 12:27 AM BST

I'm actually a bit glad they won, drag them and their sorry policies into the light of day and let people see what they're about. I have faith that the British people are broadly liberal, fair and democratic and the biggest result for this will be a lot of embarrassment for those who voted BNP.

Likewise in Australia, there was a racist politician named Pauline Hanson who won a seat in the national parliament in 1996 and subsequently formed her 'One Nation Party', which initially attracted considerable support. She proved to be quite embarrassing and stupid, lost support, lost her seat, was convicted of electoral fraud, made a failed comeback to politics and is now regarded as a curious has-been.

The problem isn't that BNP have gained enough support to win two seats.
It's that 2/3s of the electorate stayed at home and didn't vote. In reality the BNP has very little support, it's just that people didn't come out and vote. These same people who stayed at home will be reading their newspapers this morning and saying what a disgrace it is that BNP have won seats when they could have done something about it.
It's interesting; we employ a lot of Asians in my office and they were the only ones keen to get off home and vote. And why? Because they were determined to stop the BNP getting in. One guy was even going home and driving a minibus of people to the polling station.
The majority of us do not value our vote.
We like democracy in this country – just as long as we get a result we see as acceptable, oh and we don't have to get off our arse and actually have to vote.

The BBC documentary 'BNP:Under The Skin' sums it all up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2001/bnp_special/roots/1979.stm

The part about 'Combat 18' gives you a clue to what's going on inside Griffin's fat head.

Quote: Rhubarb @ June 8 2009, 11:03 AM BST

The BBC documentary 'BNP:Under The Skin' sums it all up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2001/bnp_special/roots/1979.stm

The part about 'Combat 18' gives you a clue to what's going on inside Griffin's fat head.

I saw this, it's quite scary isn't it?

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