Quote: Nil Putters @ June 7 2009, 11:59 PM BSTAs long as you're not related to Maradona.
Ha. Nah. Just Che Guevara.
BNP - Could it really happen? Page 8
Frankly, a party like the BNP will have a very brief moment in the sun. Hard right (and indeed hard left) parties in this country have never established anything more than a lunatic fringe image. I don't say this complacently, but in Britain, extremism of any form is derided.
There will always be the angry, the ignorant and the disenfranchised who will sway towards these idiots in times of economic strife. Ultimately these parties are defeated by a lack of political talent and intelligence; and the fact that in a multi-cultural liberal democracy (with a general good standard of living) anyone with too extreme an ideology usually ends-up ridiculed rather than applauded. There is a healthy scepticism for any politician who proposes that radical change will lead to some great, new nation.
Just as Mosely was generally considered mad, rather than dangerous, so in time will the BNP.
Quote: sootyj @ June 7 2009, 11:47 PM BSTWell they won a seat, anyone got an attic I can write my diary in?
I just don't like the idea of them getting an increase in the hundreds of percent in funding. They have an unsophisticated message that leads to broken windows.
Quote: Griff @ June 7 2009, 11:50 PM BSTThe Blog Of Anne Frank
Day 1.
Ich bin hiding in das attic.
Day 2.
Oh, scheisse.
Quote: zooo @ June 7 2009, 11:51 PM BSTJust out of interest, what do they think of 5th generation immigrants with Argentinian last names?....
:/
Your family has been here long enough, worked, and served in our armed forces. 
Quote: zooo @ June 8 2009, 12:01 AM BSTHa. Nah. Just Che Guevara.
Kill.
In fairness that's made little diference in the past.
And Anne Frank was locked up in a room for 2 years, resented her parents and thought the fascists were out to get her. Pretty much like most teenage bloggers.
Quote: sootyj @ June 8 2009, 12:04 AM BSTI just don't like the idea of them getting an increase in the hundreds of percent in funding. They have an unsophisticated message that leads to broken windows.
Plus we're paying taxes for the police to protect Griffin from the beating he deserves.
Earlier, anti-BNP protesters stopped the party's leader Nick Griffin from entering the Euro election count in Manchester.
Placard waving demonstrators surrounded a number of cars - one of which was thought to be carrying Mr Griffin - when they arrived at Manchester Town Hall.
The cars, one of which apparently had a window broken, drove away without anyone getting out.
Mr Griffin later entered the town hall via a rear entrance having arrived in a police van.
He should have been taken away in the van, not brought in one.
Oh I shall smile muchly if the angry hordes of exRespect and anti war protestors turn on him. There's over a million of the buggers and they are nuts! I look forward to him blubbing on TV and disapearing abroad like an unpopular Big Brother contestant.
Quote: Aaron @ June 8 2009, 12:06 AM BSTYour family has been here long enough, worked, and served in our armed forces.
Phew!
Still, my great great grandfather etc was one of them brown-faced evil foreigner types. And knowing they would have hated him and campaigned to keep him out were he alive now, makes me very much want their balls on a plate.
Quote: Nil Putters @ June 8 2009, 12:08 AM BSTPlus we're paying taxes for the police to protect Griffin from the beating he deserves.
He should have been taken away in the van, not brought in one.
Oh dear. You're sounding like the BNP there. Reactionary attacks and condemnation, (seriously (?)) advocating physical violence?
Quote: Nil Putters @ June 8 2009, 12:08 AM BSTHe should have been taken away in the van, not brought in one.
Nicked Griffin
Quote: Nil Putters @ June 8 2009, 12:08 AM BSTPlus we're paying taxes for the police to protect Griffin from the beating he deserves.
He should have been taken away in the van, not brought in one.
Yes, but if you don't apply the same level of rights and protection to a (let's remember) currently legal political party, then you give them and their supporters further grievance. You don't protect one person's legitimate rights by denying those to another.
Anti-BNP demonstrators are as counter-productive as the anti-Nazi demos were in the 1980s. They just ended-up give publicity to the NF (even improving recruitment). These groups are better defeated by being ignored as far as possible by the majority and, where they incite hatred or threaten peace, to be dealt with by rational argument and enforcing existing legislation.
The NF eventually became a mess because it could only recruit losers, had no coherent policy and was broken apart due to in-fighting.
Quote: Aaron @ June 8 2009, 12:15 AM BSTOh dear. You're sounding like the BNP there. Reactionary attacks and condemnation, (seriously (?)) advocating physical violence?
I don't think so, I'd gladly lose your respect 
to pound Griffin's face into the ground. These people have used physical violence for years before becoming 'legit'. I think he'd quietly welcome it.
Quote: Tim Walker @ June 8 2009, 12:18 AM BSTYes, but if you don't apply the same level of rights and protection to a (let's remember) currently legal political party, then you give them and their supporters further grievance. You don't protect one person's legitimate rights by denying those to another.
This is true, and they have these rights.
Quote: Tim Walker @ June 8 2009, 12:18 AM BSTThese groups are better defeated by being ignored as far as possible by the majority and, where they incite hatred or threaten peace, to be dealt with by rational argument and enforcing existing legislation.
Ignoring something doesn't mean it will go away, as history shows.
Quote: Nil Putters @ June 8 2009, 12:22 AM BSTThese people have used physical violence for years before becoming 'legit'.
So presumably it would be quite reasonable to attack any Irish republicans or Unionists on that basis?
Quote: Nigel Kelly @ June 8 2009, 12:17 AM BSTNicked Griffin
Look, I just really dislike the man (and his party), as you all probably do. I feel strongly about this, but probably wouldn't "pound his face into the ground" or anything else. I'm a lover, not a fighter. I just wanted to express the total disgust and hatred I have of the man.
Peace out. x