Comparing TV Schedules 1970s & Now Page 5

Getting back on topic here...

I think it totally depends on what your viewing tastes are as to whether you prefer the 1970s type schedule or the current day schedule. Now myself personally I love classic sitcoms such as Steptoe & Son and would sooner spend my time watching that than the poor man's It's A Knockout, called Hole In The Wall, shown recently on BBC One. Conversely, people brought up on modern TV tastes will favour today's schedules.

It is obvious that everyone has their own opinions so this debate will never be resolved.

Quote: Timbo @ May 13 2009, 8:08 PM BST

I am a Medievalist by training, and while I cannot say definitively that there were no black people in early thirteenth century England, they would certainly have been as rare as hen's teeth, and as exotic. They would not have been Abbesses or Barons, as depicted in the series.

The series is of course stuffed with anachronisms, and complete tosh, and largely intended to be taken as such, but even so rewriting history to make it more politically acceptable seems peculiarly patronising and socially manipulative.

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Pre-e-e-zunctly. It's getting like China in here.

Quote: Craig @ May 13 2009, 9:21 PM BST

Conversely, people brought up on modern TV tastes will favour today's schedules.

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Not necessarily! But yes, it is all down to taste as to which schedule - no matter which channels the schedule may encompass - one prefers.

Quote: zooo @ May 13 2009, 3:10 PM BST

You can't shout tokenism every single time a black person happens to get a job.

I'm not even talking about Friar Tuck anymore btw. More addressing maidenpriest's bizarre views. There WERE black people in this country back then, and before that. Why the hell shouldn't they be on screen?

Like I said, crazy.

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It is not a bizarre view of mine. If throughout my life 'Robin Hood' had a black character then it would be a bizarre or even racial point of view of mine, but in every British book, play, film, drawing, TV show there have been no black members of his merry men, probally because there were no black people living in Sherwood at that time, until the very PC BBC decided to change this. So IMO it is not very entertaining because the black actors stick out like a sore thumb, and hence I don't enjoy the show! What next, a TV show about the deepest jungles in Afica with white men playing Natives? It just doesn't work IMO.

Quote: zooo @ May 13 2009, 8:26 PM BST

But complaining every time there's a non white visible in a fun Saturday night historical drama is just mean spirited, to me.

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Now that is just silly, the fact the actor is black does not offend, if it had been a show, for example set in modern times or science fiction where it is a fantasy setting and the actor can be any creed or race then no problem what so ever, and if the cast were all white then IMO that would be wrong, but this is a famous historical story and so should have an element of realism IMO, what next a drama about Winston Churchill with a black woman playing the role?

But you're not complaining about the huge inaccuracies in the costume and make-up, so the fact there's a black actor in the cast seems to be something that really bothers you.

How did you feel about all the mystical magical stuff in the 1980s version you liked? Or how Robin changed from a dark-haired bloke to a blond?

Didn't they have a black character in the film?

Though wasn't Robin more an elitist thug according to historical sources?

And I've as yet to see a film version of King Arthur that mentions him massacering more first borns than Herrod.

Historical accuracy is for the birds and lines in the sand are for pissing on the beach.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ May 14 2009, 9:27 AM BST

But you're not complaining about the huge inaccuracies in the costume and make-up

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Because they're not the remotest bit obvious. You notice because that's your 'industry'. As long as they're not wearing rhinestone-encrusted jumpsuits or PVC hotpants, pretty much no average-viewer is going to notice. As opposed to someone's skin colour, which is as obvious as it gets.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ May 14 2009, 9:27 AM BST

But you're not complaining about the huge inaccuracies in the costume and make-up, so the fact there's a black actor in the cast seems to be something that really bothers you.

How did you feel about all the mystical magical stuff in the 1980s version you liked? Or how Robin changed from a dark-haired bloke to a blond?

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Love all the magic mystical things, then I did not know the story of Robin Hood, this TV show was my introduction to Robin Hood, the change from Blond to Dark Hair was silly, they should have at least got an actor with the same hair colour, although you could separate them as two different versions of Robin Hood because they were two separate series?

Quote: Aaron @ May 14 2009, 10:19 AM BST

Because they're not the remotest bit obvious. You notice because that's your 'industry'. As long as they're not wearing rhinestone-encrusted jumpsuits or PVC hotpants, pretty much no average-viewer is going to notice. As opposed to someone's skin colour, which is as obvious as it gets.

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I'm not the only person to have noticed. Loads of TV reviewers and viewers complained that Robin and his gang appear to be wearing hoodies and parkas and the women, Marion in particular, are wearing very obvious modern make-up. It's just funny that not many people mind this in a piece of fantasy drama, but do object to race issues.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ May 14 2009, 9:27 AM BST

But you're not complaining about the huge inaccuracies in the costume and make-up, so the fact there's a black actor in the cast seems to be something that really bothers you.

How did you feel about all the mystical magical stuff in the 1980s version you liked? Or how Robin changed from a dark-haired bloke to a blond?

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Er.... No! The fact that in my mind the actor playing this role should be White, short, fat with a monk like hairstyle

Humbug to this hypocrasy!

It Ain't Half Hot Mum, Carry Ons were full of podgy white actors painted in Bisto. Not very realistic.

Robin Hood is a myth and frankly if they decide to have a black actor so what?
Each generation reinterprates mythologies as it sees fit.
Any one watching Robin Hood to get a realistic vision of Medieval England is an idiot, end of.

Quote: Aaron @ May 14 2009, 10:19 AM BST

As opposed to someone's skin colour, which is as obvious as it gets.

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I hope Nick Parker appreciates your vote in the upcoming elections.

Quote: chipolata @ May 14 2009, 10:28 AM BST

I hope Nick Parker appreciates your vote in the upcoming elections.

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Nick Griffin?

Quote: john lucas 101 @ May 14 2009, 10:30 AM BST

Nick Griffin?

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Yeah, I was thinking of that racist plasticene animator.

Quote: maidenpriest @ May 14 2009, 10:27 AM BST

Er.... No! The fact that in my mind the actor playing this role should be White, short, fat with a monk like hairstyle

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That's just an interpretation that you clung on to. Maybe in the future a load of people will imagine a young black man as Friar Tuck, because that's what they grew up watching.

And I notice nobody has kicked up a fuss about Maid Marian And Her Merry Men which had Marion as the leader and Robin as an incompetent boob.