Apple Mac Laptop vs. PC Laptop Page 3

Quote: Aaron @ April 18 2009, 11:42 PM BST

You're painting a picture of yourself as quite a poor user then. I've never had any problems with my machines, either Windows (any version) or Ubuntu.

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I am VERY well-versed in the OS. I also spent several years doing tech support for PCs and I've never seen anything quite as shitty as Windows ME or Vista. My parents and my girlfriend both thought I'd given them new computers when I replaced Vista with XP on their laptops. What a pile of steaming shit those operating systems are/were.

Quote: DaButt @ April 18 2009, 11:43 PM BST

I almost choked on my beer!

Does it have a Core 2 Duo processor, built-in Bluetooth, built-in webcam, etc? Like I said, Macs are expensive because they're built with the best parts money can buy. And time after time the benchmarks show that the fastest machine to run Windows is actually a Mac.

Cheap PCs have their place and that's why Apple will probably release a netbook before long. For anyone considering switching, it may not be legal, but some of the cheap netbooks (like the Dell Mini 9) can run OS X very well. The machines are $300 or less here in the States.

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My laptop doesn't have Bluetooth but it has 3GB of ram and a 2GHZ dual core processor that's pretty neat for less than £350!

that fact is it's too expensive no matter how you look at it $999 just takes the biscuit just for something that is an alright operating system and a very average hardware set up - prime example is the mac book air - 1 whole USB port and no CD drive, where's my cheque book!

Quote: DaButt @ April 18 2009, 11:50 PM BST

I am VERY well-versed in the OS. I also spent several years doing tech support for PCs and I've never seen anything quite as shitty as Windows ME or Vista. My parents and my girlfriend both thought I'd given them new computers when I replaced Vista with XP on their laptops. What a pile of steaming shit those operating systems are/were.

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To be fair XP is the best OS Microsoft has ever made. Bar 98.

ME, NT, 2000, Vista, 9 all are steaming heaps of shit. But XP is the dogs you can set it exactly how you want it mines barebones and runs like a dream never blue screened never crashes it's a piece of work. IE...Thats another kettle of fish Firefo FTW.

Quote: DaButt @ April 18 2009, 11:50 PM BST

I am VERY well-versed in the OS. I also spent several years doing tech support for PCs and I've never seen anything quite as shitty as Windows ME or Vista. My parents and my girlfriend both thought I'd given them new computers when I replaced Vista with XP on their laptops. What a pile of steaming shit those operating systems are/were.

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I've worked in tech support in PCs too (and some basic Mac support).

And they can give you a bad image of any OS because all you're seeing is the bad so it's a little biased to use that in the debate.

Quote: Gavin @ April 18 2009, 11:53 PM BST

To be fair XP is the best OS Microsoft has ever made. Bar 98.

ME, NT, 2000, Vista, 9 all are steaming heaps of shit. But XP is the dogs you can set it exactly how you want it mines barebones and runs like a dream never blue screened never crashes it's a piece of work. IE...Thats another kettle of fish Firefo FTW.

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98 rocked! XP is a close second.

and I like IE and firefox equally, always have, I run both - for some reason firefox streams better...

Quote: Aaron @ April 18 2009, 11:45 PM BST

Right. So, are they still developing themselves, and whoever the developers are, what machines are they using? And what systems are they targetting with their apps?

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They're still developing and using Macs. Hardcore programmers like the Unix-based command line interface. They develop for the Internet, OS X, *nix and Windows. Intel-based Macs make it easy to run *nix and Windows for debugging/testing, etc.

These guys are coding things like SpamAssassin, several of the big blog tools, games (PC and console), movie special effects and the like.

Quote: Gavin @ April 18 2009, 11:47 PM BST

Self build FTW

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You're pretty good if you self-build laptops.

Quote: DaButt @ April 18 2009, 11:50 PM BST

I am VERY well-versed in the OS.

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Which raises the question as to how you got so "bogged down", or whatever the phrase was, that you felt you had to reinstall so often? I can't think that I've ever had to reinstall the same OS.

Quote: Paul W @ April 18 2009, 11:54 PM BST

98 rocked! XP is a close second.

and I like IE and firefox equally, always have, I run both - for some reason firefox streams better...

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Firefox is vastly superior to IE so much so they used the design for the new IE. 98 Was great but with the web technologies showed it's age really fast. 2010 Xp is no longer supported a dark day in computing.

Quote: Gavin @ April 18 2009, 11:53 PM BST

To be fair XP is the best OS Microsoft has ever made.

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Windows 7 is now the proud owner of that crown.

Quote: Aaron @ April 18 2009, 11:58 PM BST

Windows 7 is now the proud owner of that crown.

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Bubye.

Quote: Aaron @ April 18 2009, 11:58 PM BST

Windows 7 is now the proud owner of that crown.

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The beta version is Aaron... The Beta version give it time they can still f**k it up royally

Quote: DaButt @ April 18 2009, 11:56 PM BST

You're pretty good if you self-build laptops.

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Fair comment

Quote: Paul W @ April 19 2009, 12:00 AM BST

The beta version is Aaron... The Beta version give it time they can still f**k it up royally

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Have you both just landed? Really? Come on? it's just Vista with the security settings turned off.

Quote: DaButt @ April 18 2009, 11:56 PM BST

They're still developing and using Macs. Hardcore programmers like the Unix-based command line interface. They develop for the Internet, OS X, *nix and Windows. Intel-based Macs make it easy to run *nix and Windows for debugging/testing, etc.

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Comes down to personal preference rather than professional needs then. I know plenty of people doing much the same stuff using Windows, and again on Linux. Each to their own.

Quote: Gavin @ April 18 2009, 11:59 PM BST

Bubye.

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You given it extended usage?

Quote: Paul W @ April 19 2009, 12:00 AM BST

The beta version is Aaron... The Beta version give it time they can still f**k it up royally

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True, true. Still, signs are good so far.

Quote: Aaron @ April 19 2009, 12:03 AM BST

Comes down to personal preference rather than professional needs then. I know plenty of people doing much the same stuff using Windows, and again on Linux. Each to their own.

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Linux is much more restrictive due to the open source thing big companies are more reluctant to give their sofware over but, Google are developing an OS and maybe this debae will be completely irrelevant in 2 years time when Google OS owns all.

Quote: Gavin @ April 19 2009, 12:01 AM BST

Have you both just landed? Really? Come on? it's just Vista with the security settings turned off.

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Ah, you've not used it at all if you think that! A lot of the default interface is the same (at least at present), but it's a totally different experience when you're actually using it seriously.

Quote: Aaron @ April 19 2009, 12:06 AM BST

Ah, you've not used it at all if you think that! A lot of the default interface is the same (at least at present), but it's a totally different experience when you're actually using it seriously.

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I don't like them moving my stuff. They f**king moved my buttons in office for no reason and their doing it again. They should do 2 versions of OS one with stabilisers like Vista then one for people who know what they're doing.

Sorry I'm going off topic a bit.