Quote: Nil Putters @ April 9 2009, 2:45 PM BSTNot without a laughter track!!!
Or at least an audience!
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Quote: john lucas 101 @ April 9 2009, 2:58 PM BSTLast weekend I watched the extended version of Tikka to Ride,
Is that the episode with Kennedy in it? If so, I liked that one a lot. Shame it all went downhill after that.
Quote: Scatterbrained Floozy @ April 9 2009, 3:14 PM BSTOr at least an audience!
Hi Robyn!
Quote: john lucas 101 @ April 9 2009, 2:58 PM BSTLast weekend I watched the extended version of Tikka to Ride, which has no laugh track. Worked perfectly well for me. Just a matter of getting used to it.
It doesn't render the content ineffective.
I'd agree with that; give a whole episode a chance.
Quote: Ben @ April 9 2009, 3:16 PM BSTIs that the episode with Kennedy in it? If so, I liked that one a lot. Shame it all went downhill after that.
It is that very one. As for later in that series, Red Dwarf without Rimmer ain't proper Dwarf really. Some good stuff in series 8, though.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ April 9 2009, 3:19 PM BSTI'd agree with that; give a whole episode a chance.
Indeed, indeed and indeed!
Quote: Matthew Stott @ April 9 2009, 3:19 PM BSTI'd agree with that; give a whole episode a chance.
The man speaks sense.
Sometimes. 
Quote: Matthew Stott @ April 9 2009, 3:19 PM BSTI'd agree with that; give a whole episode a chance.
Obviously we will but it's just worrying, initial signs look bad.
I'd even suggest stepping it up to red alert!
Quote: Ben @ April 9 2009, 3:16 PM BSTHi Robyn!
Hi Ben. 
I reaaaally wish I hadn't seen any preview clips now, and had just waited until the whole episode.
Quote: Tom G @ April 9 2009, 3:25 PM BSTI'd even suggest stepping it up to red alert!
Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb.
Quote: john lucas 101 @ April 9 2009, 2:29 PM BSTIt's Red Dwarf back on the bleedin telly! Surely we're all sophisticated enough to accept something without a laughter track, are we not?
Not Red Dwarf. And there's nothing unsophisticated about laugh tracks.
Quote: Nick @ April 9 2009, 2:53 PM BSTIt's not about sophistication at all. It's about what suits a programme. Now Red Dwarf certainly could work without an audience but the style of the show has to be right. This scene was crammed with gags (many of them poor IMO) so it was completely the wrong style.
Maybe the rest of the eps will be better suited though...
Prezactly
Quote: john lucas 101 @ April 9 2009, 2:58 PM BSTThis is the problem with things being taken out of context, isn't it? A few minutes watched on a computer, certain expectations not being met.
Last weekend I watched the extended version of Tikka to Ride, which has no laugh track. Worked perfectly well for me. Just a matter of getting used to it.
It doesn't render the content ineffective.
No, it simply renders it uncomfortable to watch.
I know I've only seen the first 5 minutes but you can NOT - repeat - NOT have Kryten making his entrance doing a funny dance and wearing a Sombrero and hawaiian shirt without audience laughter. It's just toe-curlingly embarrassing.
There's a distinct difference between audience and non-audience comedy. Even by the first 5 minutes its glaringly-obvious that this is an audience comedy WITHOUT an audience. And it's horrible. Imagine if they slapped a laugh track on The Royle Family or Nighty Night. It'd be horrendous, in the same way this is.
I'll be watching of course but can you really see the tone shifting to suit the silence? I can't.
I reckon they must go to a parallell universe. On loose women they say that there is a crossover between Lister and Craig Charle's character in corrie.
although there is a good review here (no spoilers)
http://www.tvscoop.tv/2009/04/first_look_red_1.html
Bobby Lllewellyn tweet:
"Quick answer to many Q's. No, there is no laughter track on the new RD's"
Quote: Tom G @ April 9 2009, 5:04 PM BSTBobby Lllewellyn tweet:
"Quick answer to many Q's. No, there is no laughter track on the new RD's"
He needs to go back to school. Two apostrophes and neither of them are correct.
Well, I wasn't going to, but I watched the clip; and . . . it really wasn't too bad I thought. Having already been informed that there was no laugh track, it didn't jump out at me so I could just watch what was going on.
I thought it seemed a little stiff at times, like the edit needed tightening a bit more, but it did make me laugh several times, so job done so far.
Another review:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a152394/new-red-dwarf-is-it-better-than-smeg.html
According to this one, the first episode is pants, but then the next two improve dramatically. It's encouraging that out of the three or four reviews I've read, this has been the most damning, and even then has plenty of good stuff to say.
I watched the first half of the clip this morning and I didn't like it. Then I watched the entire clip this evening and I thought it was pretty good. It just takes some getting used to I guess. Plus Lister doesn't look right in a bow tie!! He'll be playing Squash next.
I'm not going to read any reviews now 
If you haven't seen my Red Dwarf Inquisitor animation I'm going to shamelessly plug it in 3, 2, 1, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMqC8KfghH8
Quote: ShoePie @ April 9 2009, 10:08 PM BSTI watched the first half of the clip this morning and I didn't like it. Then I watched the entire clip this evening and I thought it was pretty good. It just takes some getting used to I guess. Plus Lister doesn't look right in a bow tie!! He'll be playing Squash next.
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Well I enjoyed that!
And it was over much too quick. Felt very short.