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Funny but wrong. Page 2

Quote: sootyj @ April 3 2009, 11:52 AM BST

I'm flat mates with Jean Paul Sartre.

He'll do your existential for 50% off.

Not bad. But I'd prefer a Jean Paul Gaultier. It comes with cones. (warning: that was a fashion joke)

Quote: sootyj @ April 3 2009, 11:09 AM BST

So what do you like that secretly you think maybe, just maybe you should be a little ashamed of.

I feel nothing but pride in enjoying Love Thy Neighbour, Minder, Only Fools and Horses, Benny Hill, Sooty and Spike Milligan.

Tish and fipsy to any morality police claiming we should feel offended by such stuff.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ April 3 2009, 11:53 AM BST

Not bad. But I'd prefer a Jean Paul Gaultier. It comes with cones. (warning: that was a fashion joke)

Are you saying all French fashion designers called Jean Paul Gaultier only design outfits with cones on them? Racist!

Dan

Quote: swerytd @ April 3 2009, 12:12 PM BST

Are you saying all French fashion designers called Jean Paul Gaultier only design outfits with cones on them? Racist!

Dan

Being Scottish I'm too drunk to reply and too mean to wear the keys on my keyboard out. Being Irish I'm too thick to understand. And being English I'm too pompous to condescend. :)

South Park and Family Guy regularly stray into taboo areas that often tickle me funny bone. A few years ago, Jackass occassionally provided me with some low brow humour.

I don't know why, but it cracks me up when journos go crazy ape poo over comments made by Jeremy Clarkson.

Derek and Clive. Nothing Pete and Dud did before that made me laugh so much. You're not supposed to think that...you're supposed to think that Derek and Clive was the moment that Pete and Dud lost their way.

Also Are You Being Served had some huge lol moments.

Oh and of course the wonderful Carry On films.

The Carry on Films make me sad. I mean they're fun but the actors had such horrible, tragic sad lives. Shit pay, no share in the profits.

Quote: Lee Henman @ April 3 2009, 1:17 PM BST

you're supposed to think that Derek and Clive was the moment that Pete and Dud lost their way.

Says who? Not me. Although Peter Cook's biographer, the late Harry Thompson, suggests Ad Nauseum/Get the Horn "contained almost nothing of merit" and that parts of The Horn "would have benefited from being quietly jettisoned". Nonsense - I find Ad Nauseum much more amusing than the earlier Come Again.

Quote: sootyj @ April 3 2009, 1:28 PM BST

The Carry on Films make me sad. I mean they're fun but the actors had such horrible, tragic sad lives. Shit pay, no share in the profits.

Suggest you read Barbara Windsor's autobiography All of Me, Kenneth Williams' Diaries, Letters and autobiography Just Williams and the Peter Rogers biography Mr Carry On. Don't bother with Cliff Goodwin's Sid James biography or Roger Lewis's Charles Hawtrey - The Man Who Was Private Widdle as they don't have much to say - the former is snide and condescending and the latter is mostly a rehash of tabloid stories of Sid's woes.

I don't feel too sorry for the Carryoners- they got £1500-£2500 per film at a time when £2000 would buy an Aston Martin or a (small, grotty) house. It sounds paltry compared to what Liz Taylor earned in the 60's and from today's perspective, but that's not the point.
Plus, alas, most of them had issues with booze/fags/gambling/women/Morroccan holidays etc which don't come cheap.

Above all, they got FAME which is very valuable- its up to them how they used it.

I thought the Hawtrey book was great btw!

Quote: Maurice Minor @ April 3 2009, 2:23 PM BST

I thought the Hawtrey book was great btw!

But it was rather slim and smug. I wanted more details about his films, more anecdotes, more interviews with those who knew him. Something more like Roger Lewis's great biography of Peter Sellers.

True- I know what you mean. And he didn't seem to know much about his TV appearances in the 80's (I remember that episode of Supergran!)

I thought the middle 4 pages of rejection letters was a nice touch; sort of summed up his situation really.

BUT Hawtrey was a case in point- not the highest paid, not a star of sitcomland, but forced himself into seclusion with a prodigious booze habit and still avoided penury. He lived an unhappy life but wasn't broke like Joan Sims, or suicidal and panicking about his career like Kennneth Williams. He just got on with what he wanted to do (i.e. young men and old whiskey)

But this is off topic. Sorry. Bad habit of mine..

Quote: Maurice Minor @ April 3 2009, 3:14 PM BST

He lived an unhappy life but wasn't broke like Joan Sims

Indeed. Charles Hawtrey's was a fascinating life - nothing wrong with the pursuit of hedonism, although it does tend to bugger the body a bit. And I'd love to get hold of Joan Sims's autobiography High Spirits. She turned up in so many good sitcoms, such as Worzel Gummidge, The Goodies and Only Fools & Horses.

Even further off topic now, sorry. To remedy that, er, Funniest Home Videos type shows, where people send in footage of children falling off swings and dogs chasing things, er, that's wrong but never funny.

Quote: Kenneth @ April 3 2009, 3:39 PM BST

Indeed. Charles Hawtrey's was a fascinating life - nothing wrong with the pursuit of hedonism, although it does tend to bugger the body a bit.

I think he was quite pleased with that. :)

Quote: Kenneth @ April 3 2009, 3:39 PM BST

Indeed. Charles Hawtrey's was a fascinating life - nothing wrong with the pursuit of hedonism, although it does tend to bugger the body a bit. And I'd love to get hold of Joan Sims's autobiography High Spirits. She turned up in so many good sitcoms, such as Worzel Gummidge, The Goodies and Only Fools & Horses.

I have High Spirits (signed of course when I met her Cool ) and its ok, but a bit thin with very large typeface. The intro begins along the lines of "I'm not someone who kept a diary or much record of my career so I am grateful to those who have helped me with my recollections..." - in other words I spent the last 40 years pissed and can't remember where I live let alone what I did.. Teary

Poor old dear- the book chronicles her battle with weight and booze, yet when she went to book signings there was a rum & coke on the table with her. No real anecdotes, lots about her depression and her friendship with Hattie. Rather sad really, given that just as it was published and things began to look up, she went into a coma for 6 months and died :|

Quote: Maurice Minor @ April 3 2009, 4:08 PM BST

in other words I spent the last 40 years pissed and can't remember where I live let alone what I did..

You're whetting my appetite. Will get a copy.

And now back on topic: I enjoy watching The A-Team, especially the Season 4 episode with Boy George, which some people would claim is just plain wrong.

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