Life defining moments Page 2

Quote: SlagA @ April 1 2009, 6:43 PM BST

This is just opinion and kinda my (admittedly bizarre) world-view. I think free-will and destiny are the same thing, seen from different angles.

For example, Tuumble bottled the world tour and so met his wife. But he was always going to meet her, because of who he is and the decisions he makes when given a choice.

Replay the scene, time and again - given the same choice, and his then present experience and state of mind - he would always reject the trip. He appears to have made a free choice but was it really free when the outcome was already (imo) predetermined by his character?

For me, life-defining moments are really the wrong way around. Events don't determine the person or the course of their life. It's your character that has already predetermined your choice in any future situation. Choice only serves to reveal our underlying character, to ourselves and others.

For me, in my weird world, destiny and chance are illusion. Character is the substance, that determines your path and your end.

My life-defining / predestined / lucky (take your pick) moments:
Hearing a certain song for the first time. Realising music had an ability to stir me, starting a life-long passion for composing (words or music), and also discovering an ability to experience a set of emotions vicariously.

Meeting a particular and beloved creature that changed the way I view the natural world.

The first time I experienced being loved despite what I was, not for what I was.

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A very interesting view and one I hadn't considered the full impact of. If faced with the same choices at any time we'd almost certainly do the same thing again. It may present a different end result but the initial choice will always be the same.

Hang on, this is getting deep. Quick, somebody swear or rubbish ITV's comedy output.

Quote: Tuumble @ April 1 2009, 5:44 PM BST

Remember how often tube trains run.

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'Sliding Doors'

A London woman's love life and career both hinge, unknown to her, on whether or not she catches a train.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120148/

Quote: Morrace @ April 2 2009, 9:39 AM BST

'Sliding Doors'

A London woman's love life and career both hinge, unknown to her, on whether or not she catches a train.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120148/

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And her hairdo.

Quote: Tuumble @ April 1 2009, 5:02 PM BST

In early 1998 I had the chance to go round the world for a year but I bottled it but within a few weeks I met my now wife through the newspaper, moved in, got engaged and in July we were expecting our first child. If I'd gone none of these would've happened.

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I like to think that even if you had of gone round the world in 1998, you would have still met your wife at some point in your life.

Quote: Mike Dan-Carter @ April 2 2009, 11:23 AM BST

I like to think that even if you had of gone round the world in 1998, you would have still met your wife at some point in your life.

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Although unlikely.

Quote: Mike Dan-Carter @ April 2 2009, 11:23 AM BST

I like to think that even if you had of gone round the world in 1998, you would have still met your wife at some point in your life.

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Really? How cruel is that? Jeez...

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ April 2 2009, 11:31 AM BST

Although unlikely.

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Not necessarily. If John Cusack can get together with Kate Beckinsale just because of a number written in a rare novel then anything is possible.

I like that film.

Meeting a girl called Judy back in '98. We were waiting at the back door at a gig, she gave me a Heineken. It was your classic tale of unrequited yada yada yada, but that was the first time I was ever in love. I got over it, but I hear certain songs and I always think about her. But I did end up with a very interesting fetish.

I was being quite lucky at a horse-race meeting and decided to place a rather ambitious £20 bet on the next race, when I bumped into a mate who had been given a hot tip by none other than Lester Piggott. I abandoned my original £20 "Tricast" selection and instead put my 20 quid on Mr Piggott's "dead cert" (called Street Talk) as it was 12/1.

Imagine my horror when Street Talk came in fourth behind my three original selections. Had I not seen my mate just 10' from the Tote office window and placed my original bet, I would've won just over £34k.

I don't blame my mate. It was my choice.

If there's a moral to this, I don't want to hear it thanks. I'm still well pissed off some 20 years on.

Quote: Leevil @ April 1 2009, 6:46 PM BST

What about outside influence?

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Outside influences are only, well, influential, if your character lets them be.

Quote: SlagA @ April 1 2009, 6:58 PM BST

"What pub shall we go too?"

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!

Quote: Leevil @ April 1 2009, 7:02 PM BST

Barbera

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>_<

Quote: Aaron @ April 2 2009, 5:24 PM BST

Outside influences are only, well, influential, if your character lets them be.

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Yeah, I understand that, But my immediate thought after reading Slag's post was, what if you get hit by a car and die? But then I realised that that also follows what he was saying: a part of your character is that you drive, ect.

Quote: Geoff Mutton @ April 2 2009, 5:14 PM BST

I was being quite lucky at a horse-race meeting and decided to place a rather ambitious £20 bet on the next race, when I bumped into a mate who had been given a hot tip by none other than Lester Piggott. I abandoned my original £20 "Tricast" selection and instead put my 20 quid on Mr Piggott's "dead cert" (called Street Talk) as it was 12/1.

Imagine my horror when Street Talk came in fourth behind my three original selections. Had I not seen my mate just 10' from the Tote office window and placed my original bet, I would've won just over £34k.

I don't blame my mate. It was my choice.

If there's a moral to this, I don't want to hear it thanks. I'm still well pissed off some 20 years on.

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Gut.ted.

Quote: Aaron @ April 2 2009, 5:26 PM BST

>_<

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I'm sure I copy n pasted her name from a Google search.

Quote: Leevil @ April 2 2009, 5:28 PM BST

Yeah, I understand that, But my immediate thought after reading Slag's post was, what if you get hit by a car and die? But then I realised that that also follows what he was saying: a part of your character is that you drive, ect.

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Well, more to the point in that case, a part of your character is that you're not wary enough of traffic!