Jam was fantastic. That doctor character was one of the most frightening things I've ever seen.
I don't think I've seen Human Remains yet.
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Quote: zooo @ July 29, 2007, 7:20 PMJam was fantastic. That doctor character was one of the most frightening things I've ever seen.
I don't think I've seen Human Remains yet.
Its out on DVD, its really good-though nowhere near as dark as Jam or Nighty Night! Im Mr Lizard . . .
...Lizard! Lizard! 
Ah found the thread now... 
So does anyone know what went wrong with this? Series 2 was utterly different to the first. It seemingly ignoring what happened at the end of series 1- surviving charcters dead, dead characters alive etc. Plus the look of series 2 was different, like the footage had been processed differently or something technical, it also seemed to lose any subtlety and a lot of the humour.
Did anything go horribly wrong with the planning of series 2?
No idea. But it was awful. Changed vastly, from a dark but comic tale to just plain evil violence. I don't even remember what happened other than that's how I felt about it.
Only saw the first series. Didn't think much of it. Trying far too hard to be 'dark'.
Why dump Kevin Eldon from series 2 though? He's great, AND his character didn't die despite what they said.. Most odd.
Quote: Maurice Minor @ March 25 2009, 4:01 PM GMTWhy dump Kevin Eldon from series 2 though? He's great, AND his character didn't die despite what they said.. Most odd.
The first series was no great shakes, but the second series was dire. It was shapeless, self-indulgent and ultimately a bit silly. And I don't think even Kevin Eldon could have saved it.
Quote: zooo @ July 29 2007, 7:20 PM GMTJam was fantastic.
No no no. Blue Jam on the radio was a million miles better. People should listen to the sketches on that if they haven't already.
I found this really disappointing, considering the talent involved. It didn't seem to know whether it wanted to be realistic or deeply surreal, and the tone veered wildly between the extremes.
Julia Davis' character was a caricature - a totally unrealistic, over-the-top, monstrous creation that didn't sit well within the otherwise down-to-earth world the sitcom created. It made suspension of disbelief pretty near impossible - to me, there was no way any of the characters as written and portrayed should have given Jill Tyrell the time of day, never mind letting her in their homes. Didn't work for me at all. A shame, given the pedigree of the writer and performers.
I agree with that in relation to series 2, but series 1 I thought was within the boundaries of realism (just). Jill was so brazen, and those surrounding her so 'English' and polite, it just about worked.
Quote: James Harris @ March 27 2009, 11:05 AM GMTI found this really disappointing, considering the talent involved. It didn't seem to know whether it wanted to be realistic or deeply surreal, and the tone veered wildly between the extremes.
Julia Davis' character was a caricature - a totally unrealistic, over-the-top, monstrous creation that didn't sit well within the otherwise down-to-earth world the sitcom created. It made suspension of disbelief pretty near impossible - to me, there was no way any of the characters as written and portrayed should have given Jill Tyrell the time of day, never mind letting her in their homes. Didn't work for me at all. A shame, given the pedigree of the writer and performers.
What he said. Hated it.
Quote: Nick @ March 27 2009, 3:46 AM GMTNo no no.
Yes yes yes.
Quote: James Harris @ March 27 2009, 11:05 AM GMTI found this really disappointing, considering the talent involved. It didn't seem to know whether it wanted to be realistic or deeply surreal, and the tone veered wildly between the extremes.
Julia Davis' character was a caricature - a totally unrealistic, over-the-top, monstrous creation that didn't sit well within the otherwise down-to-earth world the sitcom created. It made suspension of disbelief pretty near impossible - to me, there was no way any of the characters as written and portrayed should have given Jill Tyrell the time of day, never mind letting her in their homes. Didn't work for me at all. A shame, given the pedigree of the writer and performers.
You've hit the nail on the head here. Series 1 was, IMO, just on the lesser end of that unbelievability scale, but the second was far removed from reality.
Quote: Nick @ March 27 2009, 3:46 AM GMTNo no no. Blue Jam on the radio was a million miles better. People should listen to the sketches on that if they haven't already.
I've already listened to it thank you kindly. I almost always prefer TV versions to radio I'm afraid (even though the radio series is of course also excellent). I like me visuals.