The Youth of today. Tut tut tut.....

They are just so shocking. They really are! Primary school kids with mobiles and mini skirts saying "whatever" and giving grannies lip.

What has started this rant? I've just been to the ice cream van on behalf of the dog (Yes, really) and while getting her plain 99 flake, one little boy about 8 or 9 screeched at his mother.

"I said no sauce you stupid whore, are you f**king retarded?!"

The mother upon seeing both mine and the ice cream man's faces told the little angel "That is naughty" but you got the impression she rarely made a deal of it.

I rarely do workshops with anyone under 16 because I found these are a nightmare group and I've worked with PRISIONERS. They never listen, are very rude, and I've had problems in the past with them breaking things and on one occassion, setting a fire. I'd rather work with people who would actually get more out of it than a bunch of screaming monsters who don't want to be there in the first place. Not to be crude but it does make you want to sew yourself shut!

Is it a UK thing? Because when I toured a piece of childrens theatre in France years ago, all the children we met were lovely and sweet and well mannered to the point we nearly snuck them into our luggage because they were soooooo cute. Then, when we toured in the UK, we had loads of screaming and one school we left with the bus being pelted with apples.

I see more and more kids younger and younger with mobiles and make up. Also all the girls at the local secondary school have handbags, some designer. When I was at school which wasn't that long ago (Still in single figures), if you turned up to school with a handbag and your books in a New look shopping bag, you would have been laughed out of the classroom! And the nearest thing I had to make up before my teens was Tinkerbell lipsticks and peelable nail polishes. And what is it with the fake Brixton accents? You are a white middle class 11 year old boy from Bude! Shut up.

Anyone else find kids really shocking? I know every generation says it but I honestly don't recall being as bad as that when I was a kid.

Yup. I almost got into a scuffle with a couple of what must of been 25 year old Queens drug dealin gangsters in disguise as 11 year old skinny white boys.

But really I joke they are f**kers. Sooner they are all destroyed the better.

Just glad I was never one of those idiots. Mind you I spent my youth playing nintendo and raiding my older brothers mattress, so it wasn't very productive or exemplary.

An even less troublesome 'Inbetweeners reflects my childhood quite well. So I can't relate to the types of teenagers you are talking about and don't understand why the want to act that way. Apart from the obvious peer pressure and other media influences.

I grew up with all that too though and it didn't affect me like that, innit. I suppose it is lack of discipline, from the parents, schools and anywhere else security, structure and eduction is lacking.

I do think it's possible to turn the majority of them around, to decent folk. I've seen this happen myself, when meeting my old school friends, some of who I thought would be living in a bin by now, but surprisingly doing quite well for themselves.

I think they need to push them into colleges, where hopefully they'll be old enough to nurture that maturity into something that resembles a human being.

I'm 20 and I recently declared to my mate that I consider anyone under 18 a f**kwit. Except for my sister, she's nice.

I'm ashamed of the kids in this country.

I'm *just* 18. You're all overreacting and old.

Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ March 20 2009, 6:57 PM GMT

Is it a UK thing?

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I don't think you've cornered the market in bratty kids, but I've seen many instances of obnoxious behavior every time I've visited, while I see it very rarely over here. My daughter was only 18 when I took her to the UK for a visit and she was shocked by the behavior she saw on the streets. We saw 2 boys about 12 years of age who were drinking, swearing loudly and pissing on the side of a building at a train station. A female cop yelled at them to stop and they just told her to f**k off and carried on. That is something that absolutely wouldn't happen here. I think there's a general lack of respect for authority and one's neighbors over there that's much worse than it is here. I assume it's because you've taken political correctness a bit too far in the UK. Over here out-of-control kids are arrested, kicked out of school and/or publicly scolded by strangers for bad behavior.

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Over here out-of-control kids are arrested, kicked out of school and/or publicly scolded by strangers for bad behavior.

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Or simply shot between the eyes.

Not really, just wanted to hit Post Number 3000 before I got in the shower.

Damn it!

Quote: DaButt @ March 20 2009, 8:07 PM GMT

We saw 2 boys about 12 years of age who were drinking, swearing loudly and pissing on the side of a building at a train station. A female cop yelled at them to stop and they just told her to f**k off and carried on.

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Quote: DaButt @ March 20 2009, 8:08 PM GMT

I assume it's because you've taken political correctness a bit too far in the UK.

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Probably because we've had it at all. But the taken 'too far' will do, I suppose.

Hello everybody welcome to my world. Leevil I can tell you now mate that the lack of discipline in schools is not down to the schools. I believe that the stat is around 98% of all reported assaults on pupils by teachers have been proved to be unfounded. However fact. An assault by a pupil on a teacher will very often be a suspension followed by a return to exactly the same school taught very often by the teacher he/she assaulted.
On the other hand a teacher found assaulting a pupil will lose his job, have a criminal record and can never teach or indeed be employed in a service that deals with children. Rant over.

Part from that though easy job

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Piece of piss. I often send some of my pay cheque back because I feel like they're paying me too much.

Hmm... I don't understand? Bad schooling, I guess. What's that got to do with teaching kids basic social skills, replacing what's being lost with their crack whore mothers?

I don't think it's the school sole responsibility, but surely it's somewhere to start?

Too right a teacher loses their right to work in that field again, if they are capable of crossing that line, I don't want to risk it. Reactionary opinion of mine, which I don't normally subscribe too. But if they have been found guilty of assault/abuse, then what's the problem?

My school was awful, I'm not blaming the teachers, they were stretched to their limit, like in many schools. But I did not see any effort to teach any decent life skills. All I remember is copying from books; I'm sure we were being used as photocopiers.

Quote: Leevil @ March 20 2009, 9:53 PM GMT

Hmm... I don't understand? Bad schooling, I guess. What's that got to do with teaching kids basic social skills, replacing what's being lost with their crack whore mothers?

I don't think it's the school sole responsibility, but surely it's somewhere to start?

Too right a teacher loses their right to work in that field again, if they are capable of crossing that line, I don't want to risk it. Reactionary opinion of mine, which I don't normally subscribe too. But if they have been found guilty of assault/abuse, then what's the problem?

My school was awful, I'm not blaming the teachers, they were stretched to their limit, like in many schools. But I did not see any effort to teach any decent life skills. All I remember is copying from books; I'm sure we were being used as photocopiers.

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We have to teach basic social skills. It's called PSE.

As for sacking a teacher. Criminal record for pushing a kid away from another kid he was about to hit? A criminal record for slapping a kid just after he's punched a little girl in the mouth? Are these the acts of criminals? I could go on. We still have an on-going case where a nursery nurse has been accused of assault when she tried to stop a kid falling on top of another on the yard.

The headteacher at the school my mum teaches at has just announced she's taking early retirement after all the stress of dealing with one specific violent little shit.

Quote: roscoff @ March 20 2009, 10:04 PM GMT

As for sacking a teacher. Criminal record for pushing a kid away from another kid he was about to hit? A criminal record for slapping a kid just after he's punched a little girl in the mouth? Are these the acts of criminals? I could go on. We still have an on-going case where a nursery nurse has been accused of assault when she tried to stop a kid falling on top of another on the yard.

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Quite.