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Don't even start me on the traffic cameras.

You can't leave the f**king house without some git filming you. I drive 30-40,000 miles a year and these days it's a nightmare trying to keep an eye out for everything particularly - in London.

Speed, red-light, box junction, congestion charge cameras and that's before all the mobile speed traps too. I have never transgressed in any of these areas but I find that the current worry of making a mistake and falling foul of these odious things has impacted in a negative way on my driving.

I find I'm so busy, watching my speedo, reading signs & prohibition notices and looking out for cameras that I've become a nervous wreck.

There ar some wankers out there who deserve all the get for flouting regulations and basic safety measures-but all this stuff they have now is total overkill and really pisses me off big style.

Quote: sootyj @ January 25 2009, 6:00 PM GMT

Oh for f**k sakes, "new world order?"
The US was founded by a bunch of pissed up Freemasons who liked silly jokes.
There is no secret conspiracy running the world.

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Bit of an irrational response, I was just asking what you made of it.
But fair dos!

Quote: Aaron @ January 25 2009, 5:57 PM GMT

I'd love to hear where you get this one from?

Yes.

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Dead easy if you can track everyone's movements it's easy to see who's working when they say they aren't or can't.

And until we all stop paying taxes, wearing pants in public, paying at the shops, not stabbing people on buses who play their ipods to loud.

Then we are participating in society consensually but with out a choice.

We can refuse to participate on an awful lot of small things, but a democratic "free society" is little more than an elected dictatorship

Quote: Moonstone @ January 25 2009, 6:04 PM GMT

Bit of an irrational response, I was just asking what you made of it.
But fair dos!

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New world order along with "diet beer," "naughty chocolate," "New Labour" and Conservative values are all expressions that mean to me,

"I am a silly person don't take me too seriously,"

An "elected dictatorship" perfectly sums up the past 12 years.

And even more so the years before that.

I look forward to the day my mobile phone will have a function that allows me to scan passers by for; criminal records, violent tendencies or worrying opinions.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

Quote: Griff @ January 25 2009, 6:09 PM GMT

Well I look forward to your response Sooty when "society" decides it's time for you to stop spending all your spare time monging on BSG and insists you go and do something healthy instead, in the interests of participating in society and reducing future NHS costs.

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Hell it would be my patriotic duty.

When I'm King, anyone who's voted for Labour shall be sentenced to death.

Including my parents, if applicable.

Quote: sootyj @ January 25 2009, 6:11 PM GMT

I look forward to the day my mobile phone will have a function that allows me to scan passers by for; criminal records, violent tendencies or worrying opinions.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

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I hate the idea I may be sitting next to a person who voted for Respect on the Tube and not even know it.

Most benefit fraud doesn't come from people with false identities, it comes from people who are claiming it when they are not entitled to it, so ID cards etc. won't have any bearing on this.

Many criminal incidents captured on CCTV are not pursued because the footage is indistinct and the individuals on it cannot be identified.

No more passports, "a wave of the hand and your're through" - unless the Government have flagged your ID/chip no. as invalid because you haven't paid your child support, or some other "crime" they don't like.

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That book title is really f**king with my eyes!!!

Quote: Bad dog @ January 25 2009, 6:14 PM GMT

Most benefit fraud doesn't come from people with false identities, it comes from people who are claiming it when they are not entitled to it, so ID cards etc. won't have any bearing on this.

Many criminal incidents captured on CCTV are not pursued because the footage is indistinct and the individuals on it cannot be identified.

No more passports, "a wave of the hand and your're through" - unless the Government have flagged your ID/chip no. as invalid because you haven't paid your child support, or some other "crime" they don't like.

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I suggested that these could be prevented by us all having ID chips.

Quote: Griff @ January 25 2009, 6:15 PM GMT

Also presumably most benefit fraudsters are otherwise healthy types who just prefer to sit at home drinking lager and watching telly so you'd have to have cameras in every house?

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Or just enslave the poor. Much better.

Quote: sootyj @ January 25 2009, 6:16 PM GMT

I suggested that these could be prevented by us all having ID chips.

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Points 1 & 3 are still relevant.

Ah, yes, good point!

Did Magna Carta die in vain, sooty?

As a student, my income is currently nil. I am, however, neither socially nor culturally poor. (I.e. I wasn't brought up on a council estate.)