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Just listening to "And when I die" by Blood Sweat & Tears. Ha ha!

Quote: Curt @ December 15 2008, 9:36 AM GMT

A couple of years back I thought the answer could be found in Philosophy too.
David Hume's 'Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion' are what made the most sense to me. God can't be explained within nature, God can't be an all powerful and all good God at the same time and he probably doesn't exist.
Then I Nietche'ed it up and my belief in the possibility of a God was pretty much over.
Until I dropped the Philosophical garbage and started reading science books. I quickly realized at that point that he definitely didn't exist and thus there was no afterlife.

I also think that I would have figured this stuff out a long time before I hit 25 if I wouldn't have been so indoctrinated by religion.

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You don't know any of that. It's just your belief - or your religion. Choosing to believe these writers - you seem to go from one to another so is your mind definitely made up - or is that until you read the next book? Like Harry Potter maybe.

Quote: chipolata @ December 15 2008, 2:12 PM GMT

And then shoot him.

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Or her!

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ December 15 2008, 4:16 PM GMT

I sometimes think that dying may be like going under anaethestic (which is actually quite pleasant) but I also have a feeling that there is more - though what I'm unsure.

If there isn't more than I think it reduces us down to no more than animals, no more than flesh and blood and - as anyone who has seen a corpse may be able to understand - there is so much more to a person than just the physical. Saying that we just cease to exist also, in my opinion, makes a mockery of the things that makes us 'civilised' and different from the animals - namely love.

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Aaaaah!

Quote: sootyj @ December 15 2008, 4:21 PM GMT

Hmm joke about sheep feeling my love? Ooh er.

To cheap won't make it.

Animals don't feel love, they're just vegetables with legs.

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So why won't vegetarians eat them then?

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ December 15 2008, 4:29 PM GMT

I think that's just a sense of pack loyalty. They don't know where they are without the rest of the pack (btw I've kept dogs, cats, ponies, rabbits, guinea pigs, hamsters, fish, turtles, budgies, mice and rats and relationships with humans are definitely different and deeper!).

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So I should hope!

Quote: chipolata @ December 15 2008, 2:11 PM GMT

"Common sense tells us that our existence is but a brief crack of light between two eternities of darkness" - Vladimir Nabakov.

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Ooh, actually quite like that.

I sometimes find things like that weirdly comforting.

Quote: David Chapman @ December 15 2008, 4:39 PM GMT

You don't know any of that. It's just your belief - or your religion. Choosing to believe these writers - you seem to go from one to another so is your mind definitely made up - or is that until you read the next book? Like Harry Potter maybe.

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My mind may never be made up but I'm positive Religion means nothing though. Christian to Budda it's all bull.
I liked Harry Potter though. Not going to join the Dumbeldorfs army or anything though.

Quote: zooo @ December 15 2008, 5:40 PM GMT

Ooh, actually quite like that.

I sometimes find things like that weirdly comforting.

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Very, very weird.

Quote: Aaron @ December 15 2008, 5:56 PM GMT

Very, very weird.

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What is?

Quote: Curt @ December 15 2008, 5:55 PM GMT

My mind may never be made up but I'm positive Religion means nothing though. Christian to Budda it's all bull.

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What about the esssential sentiments and teaching of (some) religions? To take a bunch from Christianity, love thy neighbour, do as you would be done by, all of that. Surely you can't be declaring that to be bull? To refute the idea of some bearded due walking on water and that we were created by a supreme being (other than zooo) is one thing, but I've always seen those parts of the story as to be embellishments, and a vehicle, upon which the central teachings are made.

Until or unless any of this is ever proven, it is only ever going to be opinion, which means none of us are right or wrong and therefore shouldn't perhaps think that everyone else should share our opinions.

Quote: Moonstone @ December 15 2008, 5:57 PM GMT

What is?

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Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Quote: Loopey @ December 15 2008, 6:06 PM GMT

Until or unless any of this is ever proven, it is only ever going to be opinion, which means none of us are right or wrong and therefore shouldn't perhaps think that everyone else should share our opinions.

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Nothing at all wrong with some healthy debate though.

Quote: zooo @ December 15 2008, 6:07 PM GMT

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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True, true!

BUT, just the right amount

Quote: Aaron @ December 15 2008, 6:00 PM GMT

What about the esssential sentiments and teaching of (some) religions? To take a bunch from Christianity, love thy neighbour, do as you would be done by, all of that. Surely you can't be declaring that to be bull? To refute the idea of some bearded due walking on water and that we were created by a supreme being (other than zooo) is one thing, but I've always seen those parts of the story as to be embellishments, and a vehicle, upon which the central teachings are made.

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I think of those as simple human morals, which religion did not invent. They already existed and religions borrowed/stole 'em.

Quote: Moonstone @ December 15 2008, 6:08 PM GMT

Nothing at all wrong with some healthy debate though.

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I agree, it's just that I get the impression that some folk are convinced that their opinions are correct and are trying to inflict them on others rather than debate them. Perhaps that is just my interpretation?

Quote: Loopey @ December 15 2008, 6:11 PM GMT

I agree, it's just that I get the impression that some folk are convinced that their opinions are correct and are trying to inflict them on others rather than debate them. Perhaps that is just my interpretation?

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Well that's true. Debate with an open mind I suppose I should have said.

Quote: zooo @ December 15 2008, 6:08 PM GMT

I think of those as simple human morals, which religion did not invent. They already existed and religions borrowed/stole 'em.

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No one's saying that religion invented them. It merely promotes them. They may be simple, but they're not core, natural, instinctive ways to behave or act. We're naturally selfish, competitive, hunter-gatherers, living for self-preservation alone with little concern over others.

Quote: Aaron @ December 15 2008, 1:02 AM GMT

So what's there to complain about? That she won't let you go out drinking? You want to do stuff on your own? What?

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No, that she won't take it up the ass.. what d'you think?

Only married men can know!

First off I laughed out loud in class when I read this:

Quote: Aaron @ December 15 2008, 6:00 PM GMT

walking on water and that we were created by a supreme being (other than zooo) is one thing,

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Which is fine because most in this class don't like me anyways (I get the impression at least).
As for the rest of your response if you mean there are lessons to be learned like a Fairy Tail has lessons to be learned then fine. But many also have a crap load of out dated stories that ooze with amoral in today's culture including the Bible.