Quote: Frankie Rage @ December 15 2008, 12:56 AM GMTThat's after you've married the RIGHT woman Zooo!
So what's there to complain about? That she won't let you go out drinking? You want to do stuff on your own? What?
After you've pegged it... Page 7
Quote: Gavin @ December 14 2008, 5:06 PM GMTNot really. It's How it is. I can't stop it, so no point worrying about it.
I think your perspective might change on that when you're about to gasp your last.
I personally think there is something waiting for us after we check out. Not in a religous sense, but definitely something.
The idea of dying and that being the absolute end is rather scary and depressing to me. However I also subscribe to the notion that we only get one life so we may as well make the very best of it.
So erm...I dunno, basically. Some days I'm really up on the idea of the afterlife and other days I wonder. But my instinct always tells me there's something bigger than all this, just waiting for us.
Quote: Lee Henman @ December 15 2008, 1:31 AM GMTBut my instinct always tells me there's something bigger than all this, just waiting for us.
I really really hope so. I wish I could see a ghost, or something, to make me believe it.
Let's face it existance is mostly about suffering in one way or another I would guess for all of us. To me it's such a sad thought that you soldier on through all life's trials and then when you get to the finish line it's like you were never even here. My personal problem though is I can't accept anything without some sort of proof, just on the basis that I want it to be true.
Quote: Moonstone @ December 15 2008, 1:40 AM GMTLet's face it existance is mostly about suffering in one way or another I would guess for all of us.
Do you really feel that way? I like to look at life as a generally pleasant journey with a lot of wonderful moments interspersed with the occasional rough patch to keep things interesting.
Quote: Moonstone @ December 15 2008, 1:40 AM GMTI wish I could see a ghost, or something, to make me believe it.
Whenever you hear about ghosts though they are always tortured souls who were murdered and are looking for revenge or died in a horrible way.
Quote: DaButt @ December 15 2008, 1:44 AM GMTwith the occasional rough patch to keep things interesting.
Marriage?
Quote: sootyj @ December 14 2008, 11:10 PM GMTI think the Scinetologists maybe onto something slightly.
All human thought is essentially bio-electrical energy supported by a biological construct.
Energy can not be destroyed only redirected/shaped.
As such could the energy that makes up our thoughts carry on with some one memory of who we are after our death?
I thought about this, the consciousness thing etc - humans being more than just biological machines. The trouble for me is when you look at people from the outside we're really not that different from each other - that is there is a finite number of personality traits, reactions, emotional responses etc, which suggests to me some sort of programming, just the same as the physical/biological programming of our bodies. Maybe imagination/intelligence is one of the most unfortunate things we possess in this respect, since it's what makes us think too deeply about things and struggle with answers to questions we will just never be able to answer?
Quote: Nigel Kelly @ December 15 2008, 1:47 AM GMTMarriage?
In my case, yes. But life is good now. That which doesn't kill us ...
Quote: DaButt @ December 15 2008, 1:44 AM GMTDo you really feel that way? I like to look at life as a generally pleasant journey with a lot of wonderful moments interspersed with the occasional rough patch to keep things interesting.
Well I would have thought for most people. I'm not a depressive or anything, there are lots of great times and happy moments in life, but I believe on the whole there is a lot more shit to deal with, things going wrong, illness, berievement, etc etc. I like your way of thinking, but I am just convinced that life is very often hard for most of us.
Quote: Moonstone @ December 15 2008, 1:57 AM GMTWell I would have thought for most people. I'm not a depressive or anything, there are lots of great times and happy moments in life, but I believe on the whole there is a lot more shit to deal with, things going wrong, illness, berievement, etc etc. I like your way of thinking, but I am just convinced that life is very often hard for most of us.
Life is hard for many. There are also many who have lived such spoiled lives they are clueless to what others have had to struggle with. They reek of self involvement, when and if they acknowledge the plight of many, there world would be bigger and better and more important to understand yours..true so true.
Illness, bereavement, "things going wrong" - all of the things Moonstone pointed out are common to every person on the planet. Nobody is so "spoiled" that they can avoid them.
Very few people in the world - especially those who live on the 3 continents which make up the bulk of the members of BSG - can claim to have firsthand knowledge of the kind of hardships that were common to every human being only a few hundred years ago.
Quote: DaButt @ December 15 2008, 3:17 AM GMTIllness, bereavement, "things going wrong" - all of the things Moonstone pointed out are common to every person on the planet. Nobody is so "spoiled" that they can avoid them.
Very few people in the world - especially those who live on the 3 continents which make up the bulk of the members of BSG - can claim to have firsthand knowledge of the kind of hardships that were common to every human being only a few hundred years ago.
How do you think you know so much about everything?
There are people who to this day live in conditions that were better 100 years ago.There are people who suffer dearly, look at Iraq. To pretend different is ridiculous. You do not know what experiences others of BSG talk forum or for that matter, for others all over the world have had or have not had. How arrogant of you to think you are " all knowing". I will not make a sweeping judgement, especially to others circumstances. You seem to do that a lot.
I for one chose to acknowledge that many do suffer and hope I can lend if nothing else a heart and open hand.
Quote: Dr Mato @ December 15 2008, 3:46 AM GMTHow do you think you know so much about everything?
There are people who to this day live in conditions that were better 100 years ago.
Because I'm intelligent, I'm aware of my surroundings and I have plenty of common sense. Please explain to me how "spoiled" people are unaware of - and unaffected by - tragedy, illness, death and disappointment. After you're finished you can explain in detail how mankind is better off without modern medicine, communications, laws, technology, knowledge, etc.
Or you can just throw your hands in the air, badmouth the people of your choice and bitch about the general state of humanity while ignoring the fact that the vast majority of us are free to make of our lives what we will.
Quote: DaButt @ December 15 2008, 3:57 AM GMTBecause I'm intelligent, I'm aware of my surroundings and I have plenty of common sense. Please explain to me how "spoiled" people are unaware of - and unaffected by - tragedy, illness, death and disappointment. After you're finished you can explain in detail how mankind is better off without modern medicine, communications, laws, technology, knowledge, etc.
Or you can just throw your hands in the air, badmouth the people of your choice and bitch about the general state of humanity while ignoring the fact that the vast majority of us are free to make of our lives what we will.
I am not complaining of my life but do acknowledge others suffering which you fail to. Oh and I never suggested there should not be modern medicine, technology, communication, law, knowledge. You make stuff up in your head. As far as freedom goes, I disagree with you. I also know not to waste my time trying to converse with you. It will be useless. 
Quote: Dr Mato @ December 15 2008, 4:16 AM GMTI however am not complaining of my life but do acknowledge others suffering which you fail to.
Only a fool would claim that people do not suffer. I am not a fool. It is also not foolish to rightfully state that modern man suffers less and lives longer and more comfortably than ever before.