Quote: Dolly Dagger @ December 9 2008, 9:55 AM GMTWe were 16.
I may have my eyes closed but I've formed a fist, maybe just in case that hand slips a little further north.
Gosh Bex! You haven't changed a bit over the years! 
The very worst Santa. Page 7
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ December 9 2008, 10:18 AM GMTGosh Bex! You haven't changed a bit over the years!
Thanks. I won't say how many years... 
You know I loved Robert Deniro's waiting, and the "hey, hey kiss him goodbye," song.
Quote: sootyj @ December 9 2008, 11:02 AM GMTYou know I loved Robert Deniro's waiting, and the "hey, hey kiss him goodbye," song.
But then one of us went off to marry the bloke from Eurthymics and went all mental.
And you so betrayed me when you mimed to Venus on TOTP.
Still I can't judge I was the bloke in Milli Vanilli who killed himself.
Quote: Lee Henman @ December 8 2008, 3:47 PM GMTI don't know - I've just never felt comfortable about bullshitting kids about the existence of a magical being, knowing only too well how much it's going to hurt when we have to tell them the truth.
This is interesting because there is a bit of psychology behind this. I think magic is important in childhood. In theatre, there is a theory that play is a performers most important tool because it encourages creativity and we tend to lose that as we get older because we play a lot less. Remember when you were a child and how you were able to imagine anything like a twig being a magic wand or a shed being a castle, etc. A sense of magic allows boundaries to be broken down allowing more creativity which leads to many things such as artistic tendances, problem solving, and confidence building.
Breaking that illusion so early on has been shown in studies to stunt a childs development. The first few years of a childs life according to Freud are the most important because these are the years that shape the childs main personality traits and thought patterns. Forcing a child to grow up faster than they should can be damaging. In Steiner education for example, the first few years of a childs schooling is mainly exploration of creativity through play. The children don't start reading and writing until the age of six. This sounds a bit late but what tends to happen is the child adapts to reading faster because they have a larger capability to problem solve and identify phrases because they can visualaise better and have a keener interest in exploring this new world.
I know lying to kids is hard and the idea of this magicial man who can bring you anything is a nightmare for parents living in poverty but can you also seriously cope with making your children miss out on a big part of childhood?
My parents didn't allow me to have birthdays but Christmas was different. It's big in my family and I did have Santa. That was a big deal for me as a child because the idea of this guy rewarding me for being good was very comforting! I think my folks told me the truth at the right age (before I turned 10). The one thing I don't agree with is parents who allow their kids to believe into secondary school, that is a bit cruel because by then all the other kids know the truth and they get bullied for it.
Tooth fairy is just as important BTW!
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ December 9 2008, 11:28 AM GMTTooth fairy is just as important BTW!
You mean there isn't one?
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ December 9 2008, 11:28 AM GMTI think my folks told me the truth at the right age (before I turned 10). The one thing I don't agree with is parents who allow their kids to believe into secondary school, that is a bit cruel because by then all the other kids know the truth and they get bullied for it.
What are you trying to say?
DISCLAIMER: My above post does not mean in anyway I am clever, it was just a fluke. I've been licking batteries again.
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ December 9 2008, 11:39 AM GMTDISCLAIMER: My above post does not mean in anyway I am clever, it was just a fluke. I've been licking batteries again.
It's OK Ruby. We know you're not.
Quote: dannyjb1 @ December 9 2008, 11:35 AM GMT
Don't worry Danny, a man in a red suit will be in your room Christmas eve.
That's because I'm posting you Frank.
Quote: David Chapman @ December 9 2008, 11:43 AM GMTIt's OK Ruby. We know you're not.
Ta Dave! You flatterer you!
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ December 9 2008, 11:44 AM GMTDon't worry Danny, a man in a red suit will be in your room Christmas eve.
That's because I'm posting you Frank.
Hey! I've been a good boy this year 
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ December 9 2008, 10:24 AM GMTThanks. I won't say how many years...
35.
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ December 9 2008, 11:39 AM GMTDISCLAIMER: My above post does not mean in anyway I am clever, it was just a fluke. I've been licking batteries again.
If it wasn't for the lack of apostrophe in your instances of the word "childs", then I'd have thought you'd copied it from somewhere. 
Quote: Aaron @ December 9 2008, 12:13 PM GMT35.
135. I told you I was a Victorian.
Quote: Aaron @ December 9 2008, 12:13 PM GMT35.
If it wasn't for the lack of apostrophe in your instances of the word "childs", then I'd have thought you'd copied it from somewhere.
You should see me live. I have a pointy stick for such ocassions.