Quote: chipolata @ December 3 2008, 5:06 PM GMTAlthough ironically it took a couple of seasons before they really found their feet.
I dunno, I like the early ones too.
Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe - Writers' special Page 5
Quote: Matthew Stott @ December 3 2008, 5:08 PM GMTI dunno, I like the early ones too.
Yeah, they're okay, but it's the later seasons that establish it as a legendary show.
Just watched it.
Fantastic.
Really insightful, honest and funny.
Linehan saying writing was like 'having a poo' and Bain and Armstrong calling writers who can just write in one go as 'talented bastards'.
Good work Charlie Brooker!
Quote: Marc P @ December 3 2008, 4:52 PM GMTWell to be fair I only had to stretch my left hand two feet to pick up the script!
Hence you won!
I liked Tony Jordans advice as well: Writers write so f**king write.
Yes, it was rather inspiring all round.
Quote: chipolata @ December 3 2008, 5:06 PM GMTAlthough ironically it took a couple of seasons before they really found their feet.
Maybe I should give it another go some day. I watched a couple from the first series and it was shit.
Just watched it after struggling for an age to get iplayer working.
Brilliant stuff.
edit - Charlie Brooker, not Seinfeld
is this still on iPlayer?
Quote: Lee Henman @ December 5 2008, 3:30 PM GMTis this still on iPlayer?
Yes.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ December 5 2008, 3:31 PM GMTYes.
ta
Just saw it myself - marvellous stuff.
Quote: Seefacts @ December 3 2008, 5:12 PM GMTBain and Armstrong calling writers who can just write in one go as 'talented bastards'.
Seefacts has this problem with me.
Seriously, this was such a helpful show for everyone who wants to write.
Without wishing to blow my own trumpet, my sitcom pilot which is destined for shooting, came from simply what I found funny. Not a demographic, not a style, nothing. It had a horrible lead character, whom I found slightly charming, so much so that I was more than happy to humanise him. Blah, blah, blah...
The point is that I wrote the 3rd (and best so far) draft of the pilot episode just a week or so ago. I'd sat on it for two weeks, dreading writing the new draft. When I absolutely KNEW I had to get a new draft in, I sat down and spent nearly 24 hours re-writing the whole f-ing thing. Which included the main characters, the plot, the additional ongoing characters and many of the gags. My producers consider it a huge (?unexpected) improvement.
I used to set my own deadlines. I still do. I have something going forward, but I have a new pilot to get to Seefacts before Christmas. That's my deadline at the mo... (I'm pretty scared of Seefacts).
Quote: Griff @ December 4 2008, 11:25 AM GMTI still don't see it as up there with shows like Frasier, but then I've only got as far as series three. So far, I prefer Curb by a long way.
Only up to series 3? Wait until you get to 4/5 onwards; it seriously steps up several gears! Curb ain't a patch on it.
Quote: Griff @ December 6 2008, 1:46 PM GMTMatt - yep, I'll get onto those later series of Seinfeld. I mean, I still haven't even seen the famous Soup Nazi.
You've got a while to go until that episode! Look out for the puffy shirt one; a favourite of mine.