Quote: SlagA @ July 2, 2007, 7:39 PMThe 88 around her in a circle was ridiculous in an "Irates of the Carribean - At My Wits' End" sense.
Oh but all that blood and chopped off limbs!
I love it.
I've never actually heard of Roger Avery.
Hero to Zero...? Page 2
Quote: zooo @ July 2, 2007, 7:29 PMWant to be Uma Thurman.
A woman who wants to be ugly! There's a first! 
Quote: Matthew Stott @ July 2, 2007, 8:13 PMKill Bill Vol. 1 and 2 are fantatic movies I think, really enjoyable, funny, stylish and thrilling. And I have to dispute someones earlier claim that Avery was the real genius behind Tarantino, thats an old and tired and just plain not true claim. If it was true, then whats he done since? His output has been slim and poor. He no doubt added to the scripts he worked on with tarantino, but to claim he had more of an influence than he did is, I think, just not true.
Well on their own, eggs and bacon are a bit weak. But together, they're f**king amazing.
Quote: Aaron @ July 2, 2007, 9:41 PMA woman who wants to be ugly! There's a first!
How rude!!
She is quite funny looking sometimes, I'll give you that. But other times beautiful.
I'm more talking about the character anway, and her madz fighting skillz.
Sexy, strong female leads? Azumi. Love this film.
Oh aye. She's very cool too.
I have yet to see a crappy QT film.
Yes they are gory and OTT and sometimes quite ridiculous. But bloodie brilliant. QT has a sick yet imaginative mind.
Kill Bill is great.
Never heard of Avery so he cant be a mastermind behind a genius.
Quote: Leevil @ July 2, 2007, 9:59 PMSexy, strong female leads? Azumi.
I think QT's problem was in breaking the early mould and going into such a narrowly defined and specific genre which wasn't where the movie goer expected him to be. Although I know that QT does love the genre.
Not debying they are slick films well made, but if a movie goer isn't into Kung-Fu then they're hardly going to be swayed by QT's take on it, especially as it wasn't particularly cross-genre and especially given the shift of focus from his past output.
It'd be like Tom Jones breaking into modern pop.
Oh wait, he's done that. >_<
Quote: Aaron @ July 2, 2007, 10:09 PM
I have an Asian-persuasion. 
As for QT; If I had the chance to make the kind of films I wanted and wasn't tied to the studios too tightly, I'd make the kind of films for me and forget whether or not it's a box office smash.
Much of Pulp Fiction was written by Avery or was based on Avery's script "And Pandemonium Reigned". Avery worked on Every project of Tarantino's up to JB, which is a good film but already lacks some of the 'Taratino' trademarks.
Avery might be a talentless wanker. However, The Tarantino projects that he hasn't been involved in, have little original, quotable dialogue, suggesting that there was some influence there.
Although I recognise that movies like Kill Bill are essentially formalised, there's something about skinny white middle-class boys who live in safe neighbourhoods depicting brutal violence that I find completely objectionable.
I'm not suggesting to write about a headbutt, you need to have experienced one, but the chances are, if you have you wouldn't trivialise it by making it a humourous or exciting event.
I have experienced strong violence ( although i have yet to be attacked with a Japanese sword) and it's sickening, depressing and not entertaining. It's clear that the worse thing that's happened to Taratino is someone's trod on his toe in bowling shoes.
You might be right there.
But us middle-class, non violence experiencing (so far) types have to have films to enjoy too y'know. 
Im pretty sure that much of pulp fiction was not in fact written by avery, parts were based loosley on a story idea of his, thats all.
Rules of Attraction now thats a good movie watch that. Its directed by Roger Avery and dumps on most stuff QT did. Can't wait to see QT's war film that will be amazing.
As for Hero to Zero i'd have to say Gary Glitter had a pretty big fall (although that defense didn't work in court)
If we're on that subject, Michael Jackson perhaps? Although I guess the people who would have gone as far as "hero" with him are probably still fans.