The ultimate taboo? Page 7

Quote: zooo @ November 19 2008, 2:15 PM GMT

Do you honestly and genuinely think that I and the few other people on this thread who admit to having the capability to laugh at very dark subject matter are mentally defective and should be in high security prisons?

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I'd have you shot.

JOKE! I can snigger at the Huntley joke, and don't think others who do should be put in prison, but I can still understand that it's a pretty nasty joke in bad taste. I'm not saying people shouldn't tell it, however. I wouldn't tell it, but I'd laugh if someone told it to me.

Can you shoot me in the back of the head so I don't feel anything?

Quote: Marc P @ November 19 2008, 2:16 PM GMT

I'm with the Double D!

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I always suspected that's how you got the writer's job on Bargain Hunt.

Quote: zooo @ November 19 2008, 2:21 PM GMT

Can you shoot me in the back of the head so I don't feel anything?

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I always do the knees first. That stings a bit. Then I laugh, slap 'em about a little, then a bullet staight through the left eye. If you have other ideas we can discuss them on the day.

...Water gun?

Quote: Matthew Stott @ November 19 2008, 2:23 PM GMT

I always do the knees first. That stings a bit. Then I laugh, slap 'em about a little, then a bullet staight through the left eye. If you have other ideas we can discuss them on the day.

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I realise this may be offensive to anyone who has been shot in the knees and face.

I haven't been able to bring myself to read the details of Baby P's death yet so I'm certainly not ready for jokes about it.

Quote: zooo @ November 19 2008, 2:23 PM GMT

...Water gun?

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Super Soaker. (filled with bullets)

I just don't like the suggestion that a comedian 'shouldn't' do a joke because some people might find it offensive.
Where does that stop?
No f**king jokes, that's where.

It's true though, I may be a hypocrite when it comes to racist jokes. But to me telling a racist joke that you actually believe in (ie not one where you are mocking the racist view itself) is morally wrong, whereas telling a joke about a dead person is not.

But everyone has different moral lines, so it can be complicated. I'm only talking about mine though.

Quote: zooo @ November 19 2008, 2:21 PM GMT

Can you shoot me in the back of the head so I don't feel anything?

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Death by Donkey Punch?

I find the idea that if you died with a bunch of other people, or you died some years ago then open season.

But if you died alone recently you deserve respect, to be well odd.

And I still maintain a great Chris Morris special on child murder is what we need.

Now today, ASAP.

Let's laugh and mock and satirise all the things that need to be exploded.

From Tabloid moral panic, to Orkney social service child snatching, to incompetent peadeatricians.

Lets laugh, horribly and mercilessly.

Then afterwards lets look at what we learned.

Some right old tosh in this thread. Seems like some people are trying too hard to justify some pretty grim jokes (and subject matter for jokes) on the basis that it serves some sort of greater good. No comic, no where is going to have an affect on the issues around the baby p case so the ONLY purpose for jokes about it is humour for the sake of humour. On that basis what sort comic wants to look into such a subject for a gag and who are they wanting to appeal to.

The holly joke is interesting....I don't find it funny but so what, no comedy appeals to everyone. But i am interested in the point of the joke when it's audience is so narrow. Feel like the idea is to shock rather than make laugh.....and anyone who laughs is exposing themselves somewhat. It's like the two girls one cup video...designed to shock most and truly appeal to a few. I'd say anyone that really laughs at the holly gag is on a par to those jacking off too one cup.

Basically there's a point some people seem to get and some don't.

If (say) Frankie Boyle told a joke about Baby P, I would be perfectly secure in the knowledge that he does not find the fact that a baby has died funny. He finds the joke funny.

Some people can't see that difference. It's not a good or bad thing, I'm just trying to point it out. And probably making a bad job of it.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 19 2008, 1:34 PM GMT

But this was a real child who met with an early and violent death. Even if the joke was written in the most beautiful caligraphy, meeting every criteria of prefect comedy writing, it's still not funny because the subject is too sad and it's too mean spirited in tone. It's like letting a man off a rape and calling it an act of love instead, because he 'performed' well!

Think of that child. Think of what happened to her.Tthink of her parents. Now tell me you still find that joke funny. The joke about the fact that she was might have been seriously sexually abused before being killed.

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Okay: I still find that joke funny.

As did I your one about the rape.

What worries me about the Holly gag was that it was never proved that Huntley had done anything sexual with his victims. He may well have just killed them, with no sexual element to the crime whatsoever.

And I pass no judgement on what people laugh at.

And jokes can serve the greater good, when we're brave enough to let them.