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Yeah, Funland is very prosey.

As is Hustle.
One example in Hustle to signify that a man is rich, his introduction is described as "wearing a suit that oozes money" which I feel is much better than "the man was rich."

Directions should be very well written. They are like poetry, as with dialogue, in as much as they should have the maximum bang for the minimum buck, not poetical in the sense of lots of similies and metaphoricals. They are there to place the reader in your imagined world and hold them there whilst still fulfilling a technical function for the directors and other secondary artists like the actors to interpret.

Yeah, I agree. I like to do that, but it would be bad to overdo it.

Well, there's two contrasting views Mikey. I'm never going to argue with Marc, especially with his track record. Maybe it's what I'm doing wrong and I should incorporate far more expressive actions / directions, rather than coat it in Cuprinol.

Hmm. Maybe a happy medium between "to the point" and "prosey."

And just to please you even more, I even went to the Marigold recording.

Ah, but was that for the story or because it was Angus Deyton who played someone in it? :P

Quote: Mikey J @ November 2 2008, 5:58 PM GMT

Ah, but was that for the story or because it was Angus Deyton who played someone in it? :P

Well I didn't know Deayton was going to be in it until I got to my seat in the studio! I saw some information about the show, thought it sounded interesting, so applied when I noticed that tickets were available. :)

Quote: SlagA @ November 2 2008, 10:47 AM GMT

Well, there's two contrasting views Mikey. I'm never going to argue with Marc, especially with his track record. Maybe it's what I'm doing wrong and I should incorporate far more expressive actions / directions, rather than coat it in Cuprinol.

I was reading some Steptoe scripts the other day and the visual comedy was written in a completely flat style, none of the humour jumped off the page.

However I recall reading about another writer (I forget who) who was famed for the wittiness of his stage directions.

As usual there is no right answer.

Quote: zooo @ November 2 2008, 11:54 AM GMT

That's a bit precious. Everyone else manages to work 9-5 and write at the same time.

Continuing to write while holding down a day job is difficult; it is not just the diffusion of energy, it is the mental space work takes up. However, the world of work has its own rewards. It pays the bills and, with luck, a bit more, and doing any job well brings self-respect. Perhaps more importantly, when I am at work I laugh a lot; indeed, most of my friends are people who I met through work. Being a writer can be quite lonely, you are thrown back very much on your own resources of inner strength. No matter how hungry for success and full of self-belief you are now, remember you are going to have to keep that hunger and self-belief going throughout your career. That is probably tougher than working 9 to 5. Ultimately being a professional writer won't make you happy, and not being a professional writer won't make you unhappy. Happy is something you do to yourself, and tends to have very little to do with the circumstances you find yourself in. (Though I do recall once hearing about someone who was cured of depression by eight score draws...)

Quote: Lee Henman @ November 2 2008, 11:29 AM GMT

Yes. I used to write my directions in a very no-nonsense, clinical way until I read a Funland script that changed my mind. Now I try to engage the reader in the directions as well as the dialogue.

Link to Funland script here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/insight/tv_comedy.shtml

I've never seen Funland.

Pleased, as I now have the chance to read a script prior to actually seeing it in the flesh. So can compare in a different way and see if I visualise it how it becomes.

But as Slag A says:

"Does anyone know if this is a transcription of the TV episode rather than the original script presented to the Beeb?"

Quote: random @ November 2 2008, 7:53 PM GMT

But as Slag A says:

"Does anyone know if this is a transcription of the TV episode rather than the original script presented to the Beeb?"

Quote: Lee Henman @ November 2 2008, 5:26 PM GMT

It's the original script. If you read League Of Gentlemen scripts they're presented in a similar prosey style.

Quote: Timbo @ November 2 2008, 7:47 PM GMT

Perhaps more importantly, when I am at work I laugh a lot; indeed, most of my friends are people who I met through work. Being a writer can be quite lonely, you are thrown back very much on your own resources of inner strength.

Very true Timbo. I really miss the laughter and social interaction of having a day job. I've been writing full-time from home for a decade now and I don't laugh anywhere near as much as I used to. That's why I'll travel hundreds of miles just to be with other likeminded people. I was invited to the BBC Comedy Presents gig in Manchester a couple of weeks ago and went, despite it being 250 miles away and I had to stop over in a hotel. It was a great night though. It was so nice to see people I've met through comedy like good old Warby and David Isaac of these here boards. Just so bril to be in a room full of people and noise and laughter, rather than where I am now in my deathly-silent converted garage. Typing. Always typing.

I've just realised how sad that makes me seem.

So lonely!! blub.

Teary

Turning the corners back mind, sounds a bit anal to me - either the reader needs help counting to ten or perhaps he hasn't read ten pages and is just doing that to pretend he has.

Just to clarify, they weren't actually anally folded hard page creases. They were subtle creases where you could tell that they'd paper clipped it in the top left corner and flipped over pages as they read.

Or maybe the reader got as far as the title page, saw it was me and then folded the first ten pages without reading and posted it back to me. :P

Being a writer can be quite lonely,

Yeah, agreed.
Similarly, my "normal job" is actually running my own internet biz (a handful of websites) and, because I'm my own employer, I don't get out much, and have no workmates as such.

Quote: Lee Henman @ November 2 2008, 10:48 PM GMT

Just so bril to be in a room full of people and noise and laughter, rather than where I am now in my deathly-silent converted garage. Typing. Always typing.

I've just realised how sad that makes me seem.

So lonely!! blub.

Teary

I'm another home aloner (but not getting paid much for it). Some days you think you're going mental and on others you thank f**k that you don't have to experience public transport on a daily basis and can crack open that bottle of wine at any time you wish. (and then go and sleep it off).

I think I'd rather be a home-aloner, plus I agree with what Dolly says above.

I do get some social interaction in the night clubs at the weekend. ;)

Quote: Lee Henman @ November 2 2008, 10:48 PM GMT

Very true Timbo. I really miss the laughter and social interaction of having a day job. I've been writing full-time from home for a decade now and I don't laugh anywhere near as much as I used to.

Please tell me that you sometimes work in nothing but your pants.

Quote: Mikey J @ October 31 2008, 5:24 PM BST

I had a rejection yesterday from writersroom. :(

Sorry about that. I'm about to post a script to writersroom today.

Quote: Winterlight @ November 3 2008, 10:16 PM GMT

Please tell me that you sometimes work in nothing but your pants.

On occasion. Laughing out loud

Quote: Zuhaib @ November 4 2008, 9:26 AM GMT

Sorry about that. I'm about to post a script to writersroom today.

What did it say? Was it a standard piss off or did you get any feedback?

Quote: Zuhaib @ November 4 2008, 9:26 AM GMT

Sorry about that. I'm about to post a script to writersroom today.

Good luck with it. :)

I got the standard piss-off, which was why I was so gutted earlier in this thread.

I wouldn't have minded a letter saying "this is crap", but they misconstrued what my script was, said they couldn't accept scripts for existing shows, and sent it back unread. If they'd at least read page 1 it might have been different. I think they just want to lighten the load by rejecting stuff as soon as possible so they don't have to read it.

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