Agree Frankie, are the only valid complaints those that come from 30,000,001 people?
On the basis of that the hundreds of millions who protested the Mohammed cartoons are the most representative and valid complainers ever.
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Quote: sootyj @ October 30 2008, 11:03 PM BSTSasha Baron Cohen insulted an entire country and no one blinked.
And yes I thought Borat was hilarious.
It's the old devil of moral panic.
I blinked.
I thought Borat was awful. He got his laughs by entrapment.
A vile way to get a laugh.
Sorry Soot, don't get me wrong, SBC is a very astute and talented guy, but I don't like his comedy.
Quote: sootyj @ October 31 2008, 9:08 AM BSTAgree Frankie, are the only valid complaints those that come from 30,000,001 people?
On the basis of that the hundreds of millions who protested the Mohammed cartoons are the most representative and valid complainers ever.
Fair comment, Soot.
The BBC should not have suspended Ross and Brand. Whoever did that should be replaced by someone more capable (or is he the guy that resigned? If so, he's done the right thing). The BBC need to start employing people who have logic, common sense and a sense of proportion.
As regards Ross and Brand, apology was the appropriate way forward and a change to editorial policy to prevent it happening again. Leaving vile messages on peoples private answerphones is not the sort of "entertainment" that the BBC should be promoting, surely to eff. But the suspensions are a ridiculous response.
It was an editorial decision to broadcast that program and that's where the fault lies.
The BBC seems terror struck at times at seeming uncool.
Quote: sootyj @ October 31 2008, 9:23 AM BSTIt was an editorial decision to broadcast that program and that's where the fault lies.
The BBC seems terror struck at times at seeming uncool.
Uncool. Yes, they are very uncool at the Beeb, in my experience. I have done some work at TV Centre. Nothing exciting btw, only as a technician. I wanted to be impressed and expected to be. But it was very much like other Civil Service departments I've worked with. Not enough quality people around, too many jobsworths concerned about keeping their jobs rather than getting on with the job. But it was Ab Fab at it's height, so at least the output was good! Would I like a full time job at the BBC? Based on my experiences there, no, I'd rather be a binman.
I went off to the pub after my last post and there seems to be a lot of comment since so apologies if I am being repetitive, but as I understand it Jonathan Ross has been given a three month holiday which will be nice for Christmas and will only be paid four and half million pounds this year by the BBC.
Ridiculous response to a ridiculous situation. They should have let him go on his show and apologise - I'd bet Sachs and his Granddaughter would probably have been on it too and the whole thing would have been done and dusted.
Can I just say the funniest thing I've heard about this story is the grandaughter criticising Brand and calling him a clean freak because he made her use mouthwash before she kissed him! I think he may have been trying to tell her something.....?
The other funniest thing is if you were in a 'moment' with someone and they kept impersonating your grandparent, wouldn't you scarper rather quickly? Apparently not everyone would....
Oh sweet Jesus . . . Just read this:
After claiming the scalp of Russell Brand, the Daily Mail has turned its outrage to Mock The Week.
The newspaper, which has been at the vanguard of protest over the filthy calls Brand and Jonathan Ross made to Andrew Sachs, has now taken up arms against what it calls a ‘so-called joke' Frankie Boyle cracked on a show aired last night.
Asked to think of something you wouldn't hear in the Queen's Christmas speech, he said: ‘I have had a few medical issues this year - I'm now so old that my pussy is haunted.'
Scenting another issue to outrage its Middle-England readers, the news paper said: ‘The decision to allow the "joke" to be aired on the show at 10pm, hours after Brand resigned, has led to renewed anger among viewers. Boyle's "gag" is just one example of the depths to which the BBC has fallen.'
Just . . . . Jesus . . .
Again, much like the Ross/Brand debacle, the show only actually attracted four complaints last night. And was a repeat.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ October 31 2008, 10:31 AM BSTCan I just say the funniest thing I've heard about this story is the grandaughter criticising Brand and calling him a clean freak because he made her use mouthwash before she kissed him! I think he may have been trying to tell her something.....?
Have you seen her pictures? I'd have had her do 20 laps in a pool of TCP before going near her.
Is this you back from your holidays then Pete?
Maybe Mock The Week will have a look at it's boring format now and come up with something new at last!
Hooray for The Mail!! 
Quote: Griff @ October 31 2008, 11:24 AM BSTHow would a new format stop the panel making tasteless jokes?
Tasteless jokes would be OUT.
Quality humour with taste would be IN.
Anyway, don't worry, it's not gonna happen. Plebs love MTW!
8 Out Of 10 Cats made a few near the knuckle jokes last night too. Great stuff!
Quote: Nil Putters @ October 31 2008, 11:27 AM BST8 Out Of 10 Cats made a few near the knuckle jokes last night too. Great stuff!
I am on the phone to The Mail right now! Alert! Alert! 
Yeah , ban 'em all. Then we can watch Strictly, X Factor and the like constantly!!
No, wait, don't.
Do you have a split personality?